On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 3:26:33 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:




On 2/8/2025 12:47 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:

I can't recall on which thread I made the argument, and Clark agreed, that 
if the universe has a finite age, it cannot be infinite in spatial extent. 
In response, Clark and Brent claimed it could've began as infinite. Isn't 
there a theorem, which might have been proven by Penrose, that the 
contracting universe 

Only the observable universe, if I recall correctly.


Applying the Penrose-Hawking Singularity Theorem, running the clock 
backward implies the universe doesn't converge to a point of zero volume, 
but to a BH, and that's the whole universe, not just the observable 
universe. AG


Brent

must converge to a point or zero volume containing all matter and energy? 
What is the name of that theorem, assuming it exists?  AG --

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