Just to clarify my feelings on this matter, I am a big supporter of
Ximian and of making money. That's why I am so concerned about Ximian's
image. They are the poster child for open source companies looking to
make a living by both creating software and at the same time supporting
the open source community. I am very aware of what happened to Eazel and
I don't want to see anything negative happen to Ximian. 

>From the beginning I have planned on buying copies of the software that
Ximian has helped develop for all of us just as I have with Suse and
Redhat and I will continue to support open source companies in the
future.

Stephen

P.S. Debian is on my short list of software to buy on CD next.

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 20:25, Brian wrote:
> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 19:09, Stephen Witkop wrote:
> > The only problem that I have with this is the timing. Ximian Connector
> > has obviously been planned for some time, so why wasn't it laid out
> > along with all the other plans for evolution. It just makes it seem as
> > though Ximian was afraid they would lose support among developers and
> > users so they didn't announce anything until they had what they wanted.
> > I'm not saying that's what they were actually doing but that's certainly
> > the way it seems.
> 
> *DISCLAIMER*: Don't take this personally, Stephen, as I'm not aiming
> this square at you.  This is a general rant.
> 
> <SOAPBOX>
> So what if they did make a proprietary plug-in and had it planned all
> along?  They've given us a great mailer that's completely standards
> compliant and 100% free!  I consider myself just as much of a GPL/FSF
> supporting guy but jeez ... do I feel betrayed by Ximian because they
> didn't clue me in about a plug-in that is of no use to me anyway?  In a
> word: NO!  They have to make money somehow and giving away software
> *isn't* it.  If people find their making proprietary software
> "distasteful" then they should ante up and buy either their standard or
> professional edition of Ximian Gnome (I plan on doing it once 1.0 is on
> the CD that I'm buying).  Why is the Linux community filled with folks
> who find simple economics distasteful??  I myself have watched with
> baited breath ... hoping Ximian wouldn't go the way of Eazel once its
> product hit 1.0.  Ximian's been a software company whose primary
> products were stuffed monkeys and t-shirts until recently.  How can we,
> the community, leech the efforts that they're funding and then complain
> when they attempt to support themselves?
> 
> They are a business, they must sell software to stay in business.  Their
> proprietary plug-in is of use to those who already languish in a closed
> source environment.  This has no bearing on those of us who use/support
> open standards.  When it does, then I'll bitch!
> </SOAPBOX>
>
> B
> 
> 
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