I read that after I posted.   But doesn't that mean

Sheets(Results).Cells.Resize(-1).Offset(1).Delete

that you suggested would be deleting ever row in the sheet except the
header and not just the used range?

In any case I am still screwed on this returning 1000000
stoprawdata = Sheets(RawData).UsedRange.Rows.Count

and this not working at all

    startrawdata =
WorksheetFunction.Match(Sheets(ContangoSource).Cells(2,
ConDate).Value, Sheets(RawData).Columns(BarDate), 0)

If you want to keep helping I am glad to have it because I am
basically trying pseudo random things to debug and so far have only
solved one of the 3 problems today myself.

On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Asa Rossoff <a...@lovetour.info> wrote:
> On Worksheet.Cells, Help says: "Returns a Range object that represents all
> the cells on the worksheet (not just the cells that are currently in use."
>
> For info on range references check "How to: Reference Cells and Ranges" in
> VBA Help.
> However, basically in this case what you are noticing is the notation for
> entire rows and columns.
> A large range of cells:  A1:Z1048576
> A range of entire columns: A:Z
> A range of entire rows: 1:1048576
>
> The latter naturally, with the definition of .Cells at hand, is the entire
> worksheet.  It could also be described in terms of columns: A:XFD
> Or in terms of cells: A1:XFD1048576
>
> Asa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: excel-macros@googlegroups.com [mailto:excel-macros@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Domain Admin
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 5:00 PM
> To: excel-macros@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: $$Excel-Macros$$ Why is usedrange here returning the entire
> spreadsheet?
>
> using Debug.Print ActiveSheet.Cells.Address  returns $1:$1048576
> which makes me think is is the true number of rows but
> would seem to address only 1 column so I guess I am reading it wrong?
> I thought cells and usedrange were pretty much equivalent but
> apparently not.
>
> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Domain Admin <domainqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Writing that book should be easy.  Just collect all your question and
>> answer thread and put them in a book.
>>
>> I do have Option Explicit
>>
>> The current usedrange does seem to return the correct range looking at
>> the address so
>> that clearcontents should work but the resize concept seems good.
>>
>> I read somewhere to use double for the indexes but that is just a
>> larger long so either way
>> I should be covered.  Using double now may just waste a few bytes?
>>
>> Debug.Print Sheets(RawData).UsedRange.Address returns $A$1:$I$1000000
>> but doing it on the results page returns correct range
>>
>> Trying your change match statement
>> startrawdata = WorksheetFunction.Match(Sheets(ContangoSource).Cells(2,
>> ConDate).Value, Sheets(RawData).Columns(BarDate), 0)
>>
>> gave Unable to get the match property of the worksheetfunction class
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Asa Rossoff <a...@lovetour.info> wrote:
>>> The term reference in Excel, when referring to a cell or range, means the
>>> textual description of that cell or range (the Address property of a
> range
>>> object returns the range reference).  In VBA and other object oriented
>>> languages, reference also refers to variables that refer to an object,
> but
>>> that's a whole nother topic.  In any case, the word has a special
> meaning,
>>> so I'm glad you posted more of your code to clarify what you meant :)
>>>
>>> (1) Make sure OPTION EXPLICIT is the first line in your module, it will
>>> alert you if VBA thinks you didn't declare a variable (i.e. you misspell
> a
>>> variable name or other keyword somewhere)
>>> (2) In InitRefs() I would use (to ensure UsedRange will be updated):
>>>    Sheets(Results).UsedRange.ENTIREROW.Offset(1).DELETE ' delete results
>>> from previous run
>>> OR, likely a hair faster:
>>>    Sheets(Results).Cells.Resize(-1).Offset(1).Delete ' delete results
> from
>>> previous run
>>> (3) All variables storing row or column indexes should be Long. In
>>> LoadContangoSource() try using these declares:
>>>    dim contangoindex As Long
>>>    Dim startrawdata As Long
>>>    Dim stoprawdata As Long
>>>    Dim index As Long
>>> In your global declares:
>>>    Public BarDate As Long
>>>    Public ConDate As Long
>>>    Public Contango As Long
>>>    Public EContango As Long '(I assume this is a row/column index)
>>> (4) In Your problem line, you need to specifiy a range object to match
> in.
>>> You are trying to use a variable holding an integer value as a property
> of a
>>> worksheet, and also expecting it to return a range object when you do so.
>>> This should work, though it will search the header row and potentially
> the
>>> unused range (a reason to use range variables and define the exact range
>>> needed in advance since it is time consuming to create range objects
>>> repeatedly):
>>>    startrawdata =
>>> WorksheetFunction.Match(Sheets(ContangoSource).Cells(2,
>>> ConDate).Value, Sheets(RawData).Columns(BarDate), 0)
>>> (5) In your rawdata loop, there is no need for parenthesis around the
>>> boolean expression.  VBA will always evaluate the entire expression
> between
>>> If/Then separately from the rest of the If/Then statement.  I haven't
>>> analyzed your loop too closely, but you can consider if you could use
>>> Range.Find or WorksheetFunction.Match instead of looping through the
> whole
>>> range.  If that would result in fewer iterations it could be
> significantly
>>> faster.
>>>
>>> Asa
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Behalf Of Domain Admin
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 3:32 PM
>>> To: excel-macros@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: $$Excel-Macros$$ Why is usedrange here returning the entire
>>> spreadsheet?
>>>
>>> No not a range object, just a reference.   But here is the entire
>>> program.  I removed the currently unused portions and ignore Public
>>> just have not bothered to change that yet.
>>>
>>> '   Column reference objects
>>>    Public BarDate As Double
>>>
>>>    Public ConDate As Double
>>>    Public Contango As Long
>>>    Public EContango As Double   'the expanded set of contango values
>>> to cover all time periods
>>>
>>> '   Sheet names and pointers
>>>    Const RawData As String = "RawData"
>>>    Const Results As String = "Results"
>>>    Const ContangoSource As String = "ContangoSource"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sub InitRefs()
>>> '
>>> ' Sub which sets the data column names and misc values for the RawData
> sheet
>>> '
>>>    With Sheets(RawData)
>>>        BarDate = WorksheetFunction.Match("BarDate", .Rows(1), 0)
>>>    End With
>>>        With Sheets(ContangoSource)
>>>        ConDate = WorksheetFunction.Match("ConDate", .Rows(1), 0)
>>>        Contango = WorksheetFunction.Match("Contango", .Rows(1), 0)
>>>    End With
>>>
>>>    Sheets(Results).UsedRange.Offset(1).ClearContents ' clear out
>>> results from previous run
>>>
>>> End Sub
>>> Sub LoadContangoSource()
>>>
>>> '   Sub which takes the data from the ContangoSource sheet which is per
> day
>>> and
>>> '   copies it to the RawData sheet with entries for each of the bars.
>>>
>>>    Dim contangoindex As Integer
>>>    Dim startrawdata As Double
>>>    Dim stoprawdata As Double
>>>    Dim index As Integer
>>>
>>>    contangoindex = 2
>>>    stoprawdata = Sheets(RawData).UsedRange.Rows.Count  'end of the
>>> RawData columns                       THE LINE THAT RETURNS 999999
>>> '   Determine where the index in ContangSource is of the first date
>>> that matches the first date in RawData
>>>    startrawdata =
>>> WorksheetFunction.Match(Sheets(ContangoSource).Cells(2,
>>> ConDate).Value, Sheets(RawData).BarDate, 0)       THE FAILING MATCH
>>>
>>> '   Now loop through the RawData entries copying the contango value as
>>> many times as needed for the matching dates in RawData.
>>> '   Since RawData can be from charts with any interval there may be
>>> many entries for each matching ContangoSource date.
>>>    For index = startrawdata To stoprawdata
>>>        If (Sheets(RawData).Cells(index, BarDate).Value =
>>> Sheets(ContangoSource).Cells(contangoindex, ConDate).Value) Then
>>>            Sheets(RawData).Cells(index, EContango).Value =
>>> Sheets(ContangoSource).Cells(contangoindex, Contango).Value
>>>        Else
>>>            contangoindex = contangoindex + 1
>>>        End If
>>>    Next index
>>>
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Asa Rossoff <a...@lovetour.info> wrote:
>>>> "bardate is a column" do you mean it's a range object?
>>>>  then instead of
>>>>    Sheets(RawData).BarDate
>>>> just use:
>>>>    BarDate
>>>>
>>>> For more help pleas post whole procedure
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: excel-macros@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:excel-macros@googlegroups.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Domain Admin
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 3:14 PM
>>>> To: excel-macros@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: $$Excel-Macros$$ Why is usedrange here returning the entire
>>>> spreadsheet?
>>>>
>>>> I figured the extra row was cleared but that is not a problem.
>>>> It seems on testing that clearcontents is working fine leaving the
>>>> formats alone,  It appears that delete is also leaving the formats
>>>> alone.  But this still leaves me with 2 problems
>>>>
>>>> 1.  why does usedrange seem to be returning the entire row count for
>>>> the spreadsheet?
>>>> 2.  Why does this statement return Object does not support this
>>>> property or method
>>>>
>>>>  startrawdata =
>>>> WorksheetFunction.Match(Sheets(ContangoSource).Cells(2,
>>>> ConDate).Value, Sheets(RawData).BarDate, 0)
>>>> where Condate is a column and BarDate is a column and hopefully
>>>> Sheets(RawData).BarDate returns that column as the range for the
>>>> Match.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Asa Rossoff <a...@lovetour.info> wrote:
>>>>> not well documented but entire row and column formats are only stored
>>> once
>>>>> in your file and do not effect usedrange.
>>>>> Yeah, your efficient statement will clear the used range of the
>>>> spreadsheet
>>>>> except for the first row.  it will also clear the next row down from
> the
>>>>> used range (which was already clear).  Not to mention, even if you had
>>>>> specified the correct range, ClearContents is like the delete key - it
>>>>> clears the text and formulas.  Clearing is not the same as deleting.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a table of data that is the only significant data on the
>>>> sheet,
>>>>> this will delete other rows/columns, I beliewve - untested - save first
>>>>> (although, syou probably don't need to code this; this situation does
> not
>>>>> arise if you delete rows that are no longer needed as a matter of habit
>>>>> rather than clearing them):
>>>>> with activesheet
>>>>>    set r=.range("a1").currentregion
>>>>>    .Cells.Resize(-r.rows.count).offset(r.rows.count).delete
>>>>>    .cells.resize(0,-r.columns.count).offset(r.columns.count).delete
>>>>> end with
>>>>>
>>>>> Asa
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: excel-macros@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:excel-macros@googlegroups.com]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Domain Admin
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 2:40 PM
>>>>> To: excel-macros@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: $$Excel-Macros$$ Why is usedrange here returning the
> entire
>>>>> spreadsheet?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok then I can not use this method at all becaues the columns have
>>>>> formats set for the entire column (really not efficient for that to be
>>>>> part of userange).
>>>>> And I am guessing this statement that I thought was efficient is
>>>>> actually clearing the entire spreadsheet and not jus the part with
>>>>> data (except the header row)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheets(Results).UsedRange.Offset(1).ClearContents
>>>>>
>>>>> Best alternative for finding the last row of data in a spreadsheet?
>>>>>
>>>>> And this statement is returning Object does not support  this property
>>>>> or method.  I was pretty sure it would not work but worth a shot.
>>>>>
>>>>>    startrawdata =
>>>>> WorksheetFunction.Match(Sheets(ContangoSource).Cells(2,
>>>>> ConDate).Value, Sheets(RawData).BarDate, 0)
>>>>>
>>>>> is the problem that worksheetfunction needs a particular sheet?
>>>>> ConDate and BarDate are column names and this concept seems to work
>>>>> elsewhere
>>>>> but not sure if Sheets(RawData).Bardate really returns that column as a
>>>>> range?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Asa Rossoff <a...@lovetour.info> wrote:
>>>>>> you should highlight the entire rows (and same for extra columns),
>>>>>> right-click, delete
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the delete key won't cut it (clears the text and formulas but leaves
>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or I select those rows/columns, then Alt-E,D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if selecting some cells but not entire row/column, you can delete
> entire
>>>>> row
>>>>>> with Alt-E,D,R and entire column with Alt-E,D,C
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: excel-macros@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:excel-macros@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of tangledweb
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 2:25 PM
>>>>>> To: excel-macros@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: $$Excel-Macros$$ Why is usedrange here returning the entire
>>>>>> spreadsheet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This statement is returning 999999  though I deleted everthing below
> the
>>>>>> actual data to make sure no cells below it were used
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     stoprawdata = Sheets(RawData).UsedRange.Rows.Count - 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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