In my experience, customers for Enterprise edition fall in to two
groups...

1. Those buying it for clustering. 
2. Those buying it for capacity. 

Of the two, capacity is more common than clustering - particularly when
we still had the 16gb limit. 

Those that are buying Enterprise edition for clustering will continue to
buy it for clustering.
Those who want the additional capacity, will simply stick to Standard
edition which now offers no limits.  

With the additional features of Backup Exec 11 looking like it provides
off-server log shipping, you can get some of the additional replication
features of Enterprise edition without paying the extra. 

While there is still a market for the Enterprise edition, it is not as
large as it was, because those purchasing it purely to get additional
capacity will be reduced. 

Simon. 


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil
Hobson
Sent: 06 January 2007 20:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 RFQ

You think the market for enterprise edition is limited?  So you think
most 
people will be happy with LCR vs. SCC or CCR?

I'd be interested to know if that's what you're hearing at present.


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 RFQ


The Enterprise CAL is in addition to the standard CAL.
You also realise that the Exchange 2007 CAL does not include any license
for Outlook? Outlook must be licensed separately.

As the standard edition of Exchange 2007 is almost identical in spec to
enterprise edition of Exchange 2003, I can see that most people will be
using the standard edition. The market for the enterprise edition is
limited.

However I am advising my clients not to even think about deploying
Exchange 2007 for at least three months, and preferably longer. Unless
they have a burning need for a feature in the new version they should
hold off. Even for first time Exchange deployments I am recommending
that they purchase Exchange 2007 now but ask for an Exchange 2003 media
kit and use downgrade rights.

Due to the significant changes in the way that Exchange 2007 works
compared to the previous two versions, there are almost no third party
utilities available that are compatible with this version. I am also
concerned about the end user experience for any new to Exchange people
when trying to use a new version that not many people (compared to
Exchange 2003) are familiar with.

The other reason I am making that recommendation is what I call the "run
over by a bus" issue. If you deploy Exchange 2007 now or very shortly
and then something happens to you, your employer will struggle to find
anyone else who can manage and support it. You don't have that problem
with Exchange 2000/2003.

Give the Exchange community some time to get to grips with it, the books
and training courses to become available and for the general best
practises with this version to emerge. It will not take long, I suspect
by Easter there will be lots of resources available.

Simon.


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-----Original Message-----
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Kennedy, Jim
Sent: 04 January 2007 17:15
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2007 RFQ


Putting together our Exchange 2007 request for quote and wanted to
gather the opinions of the masses here on which direction to take.

1100 Mailboxes with half on OWA and half on Outlook. Currently 2 servers
in a FE/BE setup. I do not see the need for us to get the Enterprise
version of the server. Even if I split up to multiple backends which we
probably will do.

And reading the CAL info I come away with just getting the standard CAL
for now and if we need the Ent CAL bells and whistles we have wasted no
money buying them later as you still need the standard CAL anyway.
Correct?

Going a bit off topic, has anyone contacted Trend to see what their
plans are for Exch. 2007 Scanmail. Patch the existing or a new version?
If no one knows I will contact them and report back.

Am I missing anything or any thoughts?

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