I hardly need one of those any more than I need a spellchecker.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard
Rappaport
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 RFQ

Think someone will make a sarcasm plug-in for Outlook?  Perhaps a sass
plug-in?

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Crowley [MVP]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 RFQ

I lost track that we were discussing 2007. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-----Original Message-----
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Rappaport
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 RFQ

Rather 5 mailbox stores ...

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/editions.mspx

On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Ed Crowley [MVP] wrote:

> Of course, you are still limited to a single mailbox store.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Kennedy, Jim
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 RFQ
>
> I am an example of this. We have Enterprise now as we got it before 
> the storage limit increase. We will be purchasing Standard now.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce- 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Butler
>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:29 AM
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 RFQ
>>
>> In my experience, customers for Enterprise edition fall in to two 
>> groups...
>>
>> 1. Those buying it for clustering.
>> 2. Those buying it for capacity.
>>
>> Of the two, capacity is more common than clustering - particularly
> when
>> we still had the 16gb limit.
>>
>> Those that are buying Enterprise edition for clustering will continue 
>> to buy it for clustering.
>> Those who want the additional capacity, will simply stick to Standard 
>> edition which now offers no limits.
>>
>> With the additional features of Backup Exec 11 looking like it
> provides
>> off-server log shipping, you can get some of the additional
> replication
>> features of Enterprise edition without paying the extra.
>>
>> While there is still a market for the Enterprise edition, it is not 
>> as large as it was, because those purchasing it purely to get 
>> additional capacity will be reduced.
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Butler
>> MVP: Exchange,
>> MCP, MCSA, MCSE,
>> Amset IT Solutions Ltd.
>>
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>> w: www.amset-it.com
>> w: www.amset.info
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Neil
>> Hobson
>> Sent: 06 January 2007 20:52
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 RFQ
>>
>> You think the market for enterprise edition is limited?  So you think 
>> most people will be happy with LCR vs. SCC or CCR?
>>
>> I'd be interested to know if that's what you're hearing at present.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Simon Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:36 PM
>> Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 RFQ
>>
>>
>> The Enterprise CAL is in addition to the standard CAL.
>> You also realise that the Exchange 2007 CAL does not include any 
>> license for Outlook? Outlook must be licensed separately.
>>
>> As the standard edition of Exchange 2007 is almost identical in spec
> to
>> enterprise edition of Exchange 2003, I can see that most people will
> be
>> using the standard edition. The market for the enterprise edition is 
>> limited.
>>
>> However I am advising my clients not to even think about deploying 
>> Exchange 2007 for at least three months, and preferably longer.
>> Unless they have a burning need for a feature in the new version they 
>> should hold off. Even for first time Exchange deployments I am 
>> recommending that they purchase Exchange 2007 now but ask for an 
>> Exchange 2003
> media
>> kit and use downgrade rights.
>>
>> Due to the significant changes in the way that Exchange 2007 works 
>> compared to the previous two versions, there are almost no third 
>> party utilities available that are compatible with this version. I am 
>> also concerned about the end user experience for any new to Exchange 
>> people when trying to use a new version that not many people 
>> (compared to Exchange 2003) are familiar with.
>>
>> The other reason I am making that recommendation is what I call the 
>> "run over by a bus" issue. If you deploy Exchange 2007 now or very 
>> shortly and then something happens to you, your employer will 
>> struggle to find anyone else who can manage and support it. You don't 
>> have that problem with Exchange 2000/2003.
>>
>> Give the Exchange community some time to get to grips with it, the 
>> books and training courses to become available and for the general 
>> best practises with this version to emerge. It will not take long, I
> suspect
>> by Easter there will be lots of resources available.
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Butler
>> MVP: Exchange,
>> MCP, MCSA, MCSE,
>> Amset IT Solutions Ltd.
>>
>> e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> w: www.amset-it.com
>> w: www.amset.info
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
>> Kennedy, Jim
>> Sent: 04 January 2007 17:15
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: Exchange 2007 RFQ
>>
>>
>> Putting together our Exchange 2007 request for quote and wanted to 
>> gather the opinions of the masses here on which direction to take.
>>
>> 1100 Mailboxes with half on OWA and half on Outlook. Currently 2 
>> servers in a FE/BE setup. I do not see the need for us to get the 
>> Enterprise version of the server. Even if I split up to multiple 
>> backends which
> we
>> probably will do.
>>
>> And reading the CAL info I come away with just getting the standard
> CAL
>> for now and if we need the Ent CAL bells and whistles we have wasted
> no
>> money buying them later as you still need the standard CAL anyway.
>> Correct?
>>
>> Going a bit off topic, has anyone contacted Trend to see what their 
>> plans are for Exch. 2007 Scanmail. Patch the existing or a new
> version?
>> If no one knows I will contact them and report back.
>>
>> Am I missing anything or any thoughts?
>>
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