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Alan G. Monaghan
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Brasslett
>> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 3:35 PM
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: RE: Spam Appliance Suggestions
>>
>> Funny you should say "I think there would be some concerns in our
>> organization about mail going through someone else" because that is
>> exactly what senior management said here when we were considering
>> Postini. I have never understood the concern... Besides, doesn't all
>> inbound email "go through someone else"?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mayo,
>> Bill
>> Posted At: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:51 AM
>> Posted To: Exchange Mailing List
>> Conversation: Spam Appliance Suggestions
>> Subject: Re: Spam Appliance Suggestions
>>
>>
>> Thanks to John and everyone else for the great discussion. We are
>> presently using MailEssentials, and it is not effective at all for us.
>> The other big problem with it is that all the mail still comes into the
>> Exchange store, which is bloated immensely as a result (like most, a
>> very high percentage of our external mail is spam). I don't discount
>> the notion of a hosted service offhand, but I think there would be some
>> concerns in our organization about mail going through someone else. The
>> appliances are attractive because it has the advantage of centralized
>> management by the provider, but the mail is not being routed by an
>> outside entity. Also, most of the appliances don't have a per user
>> charge.
>>
>> The info on Barracuda is interesting, because that was looking like an
>> attractive option in my research (I have been looking at info on the
>> appliances listed at http://www.spamhelp.org/appliances/). In regards
>> to IronPort, it appears to be available from multiple places (Secure
>> Computing, CipherTrust, etc)...is there any difference based on from
>> where you purchase? Also, I didn't see any pricing info available
>> (without contacting sales). Do you know if the pricing is roughly
>> equivalent to the Barracuda?
>>
>> Bill Mayo
>> Pitt County MIS
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Spam Appliance Suggestions
>> From: John B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 05:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
>> X-Message-Number: 2
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I've been working in the message practice for over 10 years. The only
>> product that I've found to be worth anything is Ironport C-series.
>> It's an appliance that sits on the edge and handles all AV/SPAM
>> filtering for you. The last company I was consulting for had a
>> Barracuda which wasn't do a good job and people were complaining left
>> and right about SPAM coming through. I even had two of their Sr. SE's
>> look over our configuration to make sure we didn't do anything wrong
>> setting it up. Everything checked out fine but the SPAM was still
>> coming in at an alarming rate.
>>
>> So we dropped an Ironport into
>> their environment and the SPAM disappeared and everyone was happy. I
>> would highly recommend the Ironport solution because for one you don't
>> have spend everyday you walk in babysitting the product and even if you
>> want to get really tricky with the product you have that level of
>> granularity that will allow you to do so. I've been running these
>> appliances for a good while now, so if you have any questions please
>> feel free to contact me.
>>
>> ________________
>> John Bowles
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "Mayo, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Exchange Discussions <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 4:05:08 PM
>> Subject: Spam Appliance Suggestions
>>
>> We are looking to implement an anti-spam appliance. We need something
>> that is mostly hands-off as we have limited staff. I am trying to
>> compile a list of possible alternatives and was hoping you kind folks
>> might be willing to share your suggestions or experiences. It's quite
>> all right with me if you prefer to respond off list.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Bill Mayo
>> Pitt County MIS
>>
>>
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