OK, so you and Tim are better shoppers than I and were better prepared for this one. Now, can we have a show of hands: how many admins out there who are studying for or doing a migration to 07 had any idea that a SAN cert will very likely be required?
--- "Wells, James Arthur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BEFORE Exchange 2007 RTM, they were expensive. > If you insisted on Verisign certs, they were VERY > expensive. > > Even Verisign bought a smaller company to sell SAN > certs in the last year, though. > > > --James > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Tim Vander Kooi > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:42 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Is Exchange 2007 worth it over 2003? > > I have SAN certs and they are not very expensive. If > you paid a lot for yours then you paid too much. I > have the exact situation you describe and paid less > than $200 to cover all of my various names. Much > cheaper than the old way in my opinion. > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Albert Duro > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:15 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Is Exchange 2007 worth it over 2003? > > we're going off on a tangent here, but say your > Exchange 2007 Server has a public Cname and a > different internal hostname (not an uncommon > situation), then your "very cheap" certificate will > not work, even though it worked before on Server > 2003 > with the same name split. You'll need a 'Subject > Alternative Name' certificate, and they ain't cheap. > > --- Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sorry, but as was discussed on one of the > lists > > a week or so ago... Exchange certs are NOT > > expensive. They are really very cheap. > > TVK > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Albert Duro > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:11 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Is Exchange 2007 worth it over 2003? > > > > yes you can. BUT that doesn't really give you a > > feel > > for 07 so long as it's an inert sidekick. It's > when > > it takes over that all heck breaks loose. That's > > why > > I recommended it for a separate network. > > Just one of many, many examples of what can go > > radically different is that your certificate(s) > may > > no > > longer work with 07, and you may have to acquire > > new, > > expensive ones. > > > > --- "Wohlgemuth, Mike" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Can't you install 07 alongside 03 and keep > user's > > > mailboxes on 03 until > > > you get comfortable with 07 and then just move > the > > > mailboxes over? > > > > > > Just wondering as that is what I was lead to > > believe > > > ... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of > > > Albert Duro > > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:06 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: Re: Is Exchange 2007 worth it over > 2003? > > > > > > I have found the change from Exch 03 to 07 far > > more > > > demanding and > > > stressful > > > that the change from NT/5.5 to AD/Exch 2K. And > > I've > > > often complained of > > > how > > > unnecessarily difficult Exch 07 is, and how it > > seems > > > to me like an > > > incomplete product, with too many rough and > > > crumbling edges. > > > I can see that it offers advantages to a large > > shop > > > with a complex > > > topology > > > and teams of admins who can delve into its > > > complexities. But for a > > > small > > > shop with a tiny team or a team of one, 07 is, > > > frankly, a Katrina. > > > But you can't afford to ignore it, either. My > > > hesitant advice is to > > > stay > > > with 03 for production and get acquainted with > 07 > > in > > > a lab or separate > > > network. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul Hutchings" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" > > > <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:36 AM > > > Subject: Is Exchange 2007 worth it over 2003? > > > > > > > > > We currently have a single Exchange 2003 SP2 > > server > > > servicing all our > > > mailboxes and public folders. > > > > > > In six months or so I need to look at replacing > > the > > > hardware, which > > > means I need to be thinking now what I want to > do > > on > > > the software side > > > for testing/budgeting purposes etc. > > > > > > I'm looking at the feature list of Exchange 2007 > > vs. > > > 2003 and I'm kind > > > of scratching my head and thinking "What's the > big > > > deal"? > > > > > > We've just gone down the route of a SAN and a > > small > > > ESX cluster, and > > > what I'm currently thinking is skip the software > > > upgrade next year and > > > stick with 2003, and get it virtualized properly > > to > > > add some resiliency, > > > then review it the following year. > > > > > > I'd welcome all feedback but I'm looking at all > > the > > > E27K comparison > > > matrices and tbh there's not much that's > > convincing > > > me that the $70k or > > > so just in CAL costs is going to benefit us > > > sufficiently to justify it. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Paul > > > > > > -- > > > MIRA Ltd > > > > > > Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 > 0TU, > > > England. > > > > > > Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 > > > VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 > > > > > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential and > > are > > > solely for the use > > > of > > > the intended recipient. > > > If you receive this e-mail in error, please > delete > === message truncated === _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. 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