Thanks for all the replies. I enjoyed them all, and some were very helpful!
Ummm, I'm the original poster, and we used VMS Mail, and PMDF PINE on VAX/VMS then Alpha/VMS, before switching to Exchange 5.5, and I supported all that. I don't script in PERL, but given enough time (haha), there are a couple of guys on staff that could manage it. But, I doubt they would either have or want to use the time necessary. The original request came to me from my boss (a former student of mine, BTW), who was hoping for a cheap, maybe even free Exchange reporting tool, kinda like SpiceWorks is for monitoring servers/ad/etc. Like most everyone else in IT, we're overworked and underpaid, and still have to respond to client requests as if we weren't. Gee, wonder where *my* bailout is..... -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod MailTo:larry.wahl...@concordiatech.org Business Phone: (314) 996-1876 > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51093395-1338...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51093395-1338...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Hawkins, Geni P > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:30 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > Well, obviously, to me, *I'm* the average. Hasn't everyone > else been working with Exchange since 4.x, having previously > known more than one would ever care to about IBM PROFS and > OfficeVision (and cc:Mail, and Pine, and...)? > > Thank you, > > Geni P. Hawkins > Systems Engineer > Highline Public Schools > 206-433-2201 > hawki...@hsd401.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51093332-597...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51093332-597...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:25 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > Define "average". I'd be very hard-pressed to come up with a > profile of an "average" Exchange administrator. > > Ed Crowley MCITP MCSE+I MCSE+M MCTS MVP > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral > problems." > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51093267-631...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51093267-631...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Brett Fernicola > Sent: February 12, 2009 13:22 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > Your missing the point Chris. You and I may fully understand > Perl and programming in general, but that's because we are developers. > > I am trying to steer Exchange Admins who are obviously not > developers or even scripter's towards the simplest easiest > solution. If an admin needs to ask how to analyze his > exchange logs then I'm assuming he's not up to the task of > writing his own solution. Therefore suggesting a custom Perl > scenario may be out of reach for most people; hence why I > recommend people to look at MS Log Parser because they will > find already ready working scripts to answer their ?'s. Those > scripts will also be in a much easier to understand format > thus allowing novices to alter and edit them to fit their needs. > > Nothing against Perl, it just doesn't fit well for the > average exchange admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brett Fernicola > Systems Engineer > STEALTHbits Technologies, Inc. > (201) 447-9356 > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51090709-3785...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51090709-3785...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Chris Scharff > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:06 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51080486-1429...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51080486-1429...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Brett Fernicola Posted At: Wednesday, February 11, > 2009 4:28 PM Posted > To: swynk > Conversation: Exchange reporting tools > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > #1 Windows does not natively support Perl > > So I guess if installing ActiveState Perl on my box is > insufficient I'll use my Ubuntu box. What is that FUD > supposed to mean? > > #2 Making a custom report in Perl is much harder then using > SQL Code and VB. > > Source? Examples? What does that even mean? I can state with > 100% certainty that for me your assertion is untrue. > > #3 Have fun researching and finding help with Perl in regards > to Exchange Metric log crunching. > > I still don't know what an Exchange Metric log is, but I'm > relatively new to Exchange. What would I need help with > exactly? Parsing a log file in Perl? It's one of Perl's core > strengths. Would I need to ask a Perl developer what a log > field or value meant if I didn't know or could anyone with a > working knowledge of Exchange answer that? Is a Perl > developer going to have a more interesting take on message > counting standards than a C# developer? Why can't I debate > that with both? > > > #4 There is already a user base of people using MS log parser > to crunch exchange Logs, they will help and share their > scripts with you. I doubt you will find this level of support > with Perl. > > I assume the 'you' here is the generic you. Because I could > have a half dozen Perl samples in my inbox with a single email. > > #5 Again if you want support, help, & samples use SQL and VB, > which are all understood by windows natively. > > I've helped build Exchange log parsing tools in Java. Got > plenty of support, had developers smart enough to understand > samples written in other languages and I think it was running > on some damn Solaris box for all it matters. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange > To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-51090709-3785410.edab4f1289b098e322e75545dbe85...@intm-d > l.sparklis > t.com > Exchange List admin: lc...@jupitermedia.com > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: > Jupitermedia Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange > To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-51093267-631551.e170a1e9d11027697659851d5fb21...@intm-dl > .sparklist > .com > Exchange List admin: lc...@jupitermedia.com > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: > Jupitermedia Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange > To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-51093332-597688.844f4b02d9a9994434083601dc65d...@intm-dl > .sparklist > .com > Exchange List admin: lc...@jupitermedia.com > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: > Jupitermedia Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange > To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-51093395-1338163.2fffdf82b1415bd63529af317974a...@intm-d > l.sparklist.com > Exchange List admin: lc...@jupitermedia.com > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: > Jupitermedia Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51095677-93384.d3786cf277f52d7b092b75655b561...@intm-dl.sparklist.com Exchange List admin: lc...@jupitermedia.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. 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