I'm running InoculateIT here and at work. It doesn't take much to figure out
that right-clicking an object generally brings up a menu. Right-clicking
InoculateIT does so and at the bottom it says "Exit." Users aren't
necessarily stupid ignoramuses; they usually know enough to get around and
enough to get themselves in trouble yet not enough to get themselves out of
trouble.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Ely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> What?!?!?! A user might actually be smart enough to do that? ;o) Golly
> gee...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Chenault
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
>
>
> How do you enforce scanning the desktops (I assume you mean something is
> loading like CA InoculateIt)? What's to keep Joe User from disabling it?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Monahon, Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:14 PM
> Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
>
>
> > We scan incoming and outgoing and the IMCs.
> > We scan the desktops, servers, and the mail store.
> > We'll catch it one way or the other.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:54 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> >
> >
> > Well, pop mail doesn't come in anywhere except the client. The client
> sends
> > using SMTP and does this via relaying. So you're saying you can scan
> > mail that is being bounced off the external IMS interface?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Monahon, Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:36 PM
> > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> >
> >
> > > Okay, different management style here.
> > >
> > > We are scanning all our pop mail coming into the organization for
> > > viruses and spam content so it's not really a concern. We prefer to
> > > foster a
> > healthy
> > > working relationship with our customers.
> > >
> > > We are winning our POP battle through attrition and the method I
> > > described below. IT is also gaining the respect of our users,
> > > something that was missing before the new regime was installed and
> > > changed the process.
> > >
> > > It depends what important to you, and maybe how big ones ego is.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:16 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I disagree. When your users are using external POP3 mail that's not
>
> > > under your control, it voids all of your virus/content
> > > filtering/etc. etc. protection you've employed. He's exactly right
> > > on what he wants to do.
> > >
> > > S.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Monahon, Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:11 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> > >
> > >
> > > You may be going about it wrong.
> > >
> > > Instead of forcing users off POP and pissing off the user base,
> > aggressively
> > > promote the advantages of Exchange combined with the Outlook for
> > scheduling,
> > > calendaring, list services, OWA, backups etc.
> > >
> > > As the company and managers begin to realize the benefits of these
> > > value added solutions, you may begin to see some changes. When the
> > > POP users dwindle down to a cranky few, then you pull out the
> > > baseball bat.
> > >
> > > Revolutions usually begin quietly.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:53 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> > >
> > >
> > > And if you block POP3 in your firewall, it means your employees or
> > > administration can't pick up their email at home.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:34 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> > >
> > >
> > > But that is only about 25% of the battle, you also need to stop port
>
> > > 80 email as well, and there are only about a million of those.
> > >
> > > Jeffrey R. Waters
> > > Senior Systems Engineer
> > > Information Technology, Hanover County
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:48 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> > >
> > >
> > > Firewall? Block the POP3 port.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:44 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to prevent users from using (for example) AOL or
> > > > any other 3rd party POP3 mail clients. We want to force our users
>
> > > > to use only our exchange server for their e-mail. Can this be
> > > > done?
> > > >
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