I'm assuming that you might have gathered that I was being a complete
smart a$$ in my reply.  ;o)  I agree with your sentiments exactly.

D


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Daniel
Chenault
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail


I'm running InoculateIT here and at work. It doesn't take much to figure
out that right-clicking an object generally brings up a menu.
Right-clicking InoculateIT does so and at the bottom it says "Exit."
Users aren't necessarily stupid ignoramuses; they usually know enough to
get around and enough to get themselves in trouble yet not enough to get
themselves out of trouble.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Ely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail


> What?!?!?!  A user might actually be smart enough to do that?  ;o) 
> Golly gee...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Daniel 
> Chenault
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
>
>
> How do you enforce scanning the desktops (I assume you mean something 
> is loading like CA InoculateIt)? What's to keep Joe User from 
> disabling it?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Monahon, Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:14 PM
> Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
>
>
> > We scan incoming and outgoing and the IMCs.
> > We scan the desktops, servers, and the mail store.
> > We'll catch it one way or the other.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:54 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> >
> >
> > Well, pop mail doesn't come in anywhere except the client. The 
> > client
> sends
> > using SMTP and does this via relaying. So you're saying you can scan

> > mail that is being bounced off the external IMS interface?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Monahon, Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:36 PM
> > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> >
> >
> > > Okay, different management style here.
> > >
> > > We are scanning all our pop mail coming into the organization for 
> > > viruses and spam content so it's not really a concern. We prefer 
> > > to foster a
> > healthy
> > > working relationship with our customers.
> > >
> > > We are winning our POP battle through attrition and the method I 
> > > described below. IT is also gaining the respect of our users, 
> > > something that was missing before the new regime was installed and

> > > changed the process.
> > >
> > > It depends what important to you, and maybe how big ones ego is.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:16 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for 
> > > mail
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I disagree.  When your users are using external POP3 mail that's 
> > > not
>
> > > under your control, it voids all of your virus/content 
> > > filtering/etc. etc. protection you've employed.  He's exactly 
> > > right on what he wants to do.
> > >
> > > S.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Monahon, Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:11 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for 
> > > mail
> > >
> > >
> > > You may be going about it wrong.
> > >
> > > Instead of forcing users off POP and pissing off the user base,
> > aggressively
> > > promote the advantages of Exchange combined with the Outlook for
> > scheduling,
> > > calendaring, list services, OWA, backups etc.
> > >
> > > As the company and managers begin to realize the benefits of these

> > > value added solutions, you may begin to see  some changes. When 
> > > the POP users dwindle down to a cranky few, then you pull out the 
> > > baseball bat.
> > >
> > > Revolutions usually begin quietly.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:53 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for 
> > > mail
> > >
> > >
> > > And if you block POP3 in your firewall, it means your employees or

> > > administration can't pick up their email at home.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:34 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for 
> > > mail
> > >
> > >
> > > But that is only about 25% of the battle, you also need to stop 
> > > port
>
> > > 80 email as well, and there are only about a million of those.
> > >
> > > Jeffrey R. Waters
> > > Senior Systems Engineer
> > > Information Technology, Hanover County
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:48 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for 
> > > mail
> > >
> > >
> > > Firewall?  Block the POP3 port.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:44 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to prevent users from using (for example) AOL or 
> > > > any other 3rd party POP3 mail clients.  We want to force our 
> > > > users
>
> > > > to use only our exchange server for their e-mail.  Can this be 
> > > > done?
> > > >
> > > >
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