Alright Ms. Smarty Pants, so what happens when one of your "Lusers has a
virus within their "Personal Folders", they execute it and take your
network down? It's not possible you say... HA! These are "L"users
we're talking about... ANYTHING is possible.
I think you and your management should consider rethinking your ignorant
plan. Disk space is cheap and here you're wasting it on your fileserver
by using PST files instead of keeping it on the exchange server better
managed. How ignorant is that?!?
Your standard that you and management are upset with because users
aren't using it is worthless. All you do is advocate the use of a
worthless file that will cause you more trouble in the long run just
because you ALLOW users to do something so ignorant.
A good policy is an effective policy... Yours is not effective!
Back to the point of the folders under the mailbox... Who cares what
folders are there? If they are over the limit of the mailbox size,
they're over it. It doesn't matter if they have other folders or not.
Over the limit is over the limit.
You should read more into Ed C's famous quote...
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gomez, Mary
Lou
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: # of folders in mailboxes
"I" am not confused. As I stated in the previous response, I
specifically described the folders I was seeing and where they were
located. And yes, I do know the difference between the mailbox folders
and personal folders. I did not scan for their personal folders, only
the mailbox folders themselves. The scan (GroupShield's On Demand
Scanner) only scans the top-level folders which includes any newly
created folders the users have added. We do tell them to sort their mail
into personal folders if they insist on keeping "everything" but we ask
them to keep them on their Home drive. This way, they can keep their
mailbox sizes down to well below our corporate standard limit.
Who cares? I, along with management now care because we have people who
are not adhering to our standard. With the virus hit we took last week,
we are working on strictly enforcing all of our standards. Exchange is
just one of them. We do have mailbox size limits & adhere to those. We
don't raise those for anyone, not even the president of the company. My
question originally was not on limits...but on reporting out of Exchange
5.5. I understand that 2000 will give me various reporting functionality
but I'm not finding the same in 5.5. Mary Lou
-----Original Message-----
From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: # of folders in mailboxes
I'm coming in late on this thread so excuse me if you've
answered this.
What are you using to SCAN the folders with? Are you
sure your scan their
Personal Folder? Sounds like you are scanning the
Exchange server
mailboxes, not the Personal folder. You do realize that
they aren't the
same?????? If my assumption is right and you are scan
only the Exchange
server mailboxes, then who cares how many folders the
users have. Hell, I'd
love to see more of my users, get their sh*t organized
into folders, instead
of having everything heaped into just the inbox. If you
are worried about
mailbox sizes then institute mailbox limits and stick to
them. There are
numerous threads in the archives about mailbox
limits......If any of this
confuses you, then by a book by Tony Redmond or Paul
Robichaux. You will
also need to read said book....
Matthew
Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It,
Get yours today!
http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp
"Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember
the
P stands for
Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail
admin)..." Jim Schwartz
8-16-01
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Gomez, Mary Lou
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 1:50 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: # of folders in mailboxes
>>>
>>>
>>>In Outlook, you can have 3 sets of folders: top-level
which
>>>is your mailbox
>>>items that come canned with the application (Inbox,
Deleted
>>>Items, Sent
>>>Items, Calendar, etc), Public Folders and in between,
>>>Personal Folders. When
>>>running the scan, you can see each mailboxes' folders
>>>(Inbox, Sent Items,
>>>Deleted Items, etc) being scanned. There are about 13
on the
>>>average for
>>>each user mailbox. Some mailboxes, as they were being
>>>scanned, had within
>>>these top-level folders, subfolders like: Inbox - my
>>>personal stuff, Inbox -
>>>collections, Inbox - >>>, and the list went on. The
folders
>>>were not only
>>>limited to the Inbox.
>>>
>>>We instruct our users to go to Options, Personal
Folders and
>>>to point to
>>>their home drive if they want to "hoard" mail. Some
of these
>>>users have
>>>obviously not done this and I'd like to find out who
they
>>>are so we can get
>>>this corrected. This scan took us a total of about 30
hours
>>>because we only
>>>use 1 Exchange server. I'm hoping this will finally
convince
>>>the powers that
>>>be to let us purchase a 2nd Exchange server where we
can
>>>split Exchange off.
>>>
>>>Mary Lou
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Herrick, Michael
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:02 AM
>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>> Subject: RE: # of folders in mailboxes
>>>
>>>
>>> If I read the question correctly, you
scanned
>>>the server and
>>>saw other
>>> folders in their mailbox. How did you do
this?
>>>If you saw
>>>folders on the
>>> Exchange server, then what you saw were
not
PST
>>>files. And
>>>PST files do
>>> not
>>> prompt with a warning about running out
of
disk
>>>space. Can
>>>you please
>>> clarify what you are seeing?
>>>
>>> Michael Herrick
>>> Groton CIT Messaging Services
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gomez, Mary Lou"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Exchange Discussions"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 4:17 PM
>>> Subject: # of folders in mailboxes
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to
run
some kind of a
>>>report on
>>> Exchange
>>> that will tell me how many personal
folders
>>>were created in
>>>each user's
>>> mailbox? We are running Exchange 5.5,
sp3 on
1
>>>server and
>>>Outlook 98.
>>> While
>>> running a scan on our server, I noticed
some
users had
>>>folders they'd
>>> created under their Inbox or somewhere
within
>>>their mailbox.
>>>We want to
>>> notify these people that we want them to
point their
>>>Personal Folders to
>>> their Home drives and not on the
C:\drive.
Some of these
>>>people are
>>> usually
>>> pretty obvious because they constantly
complain about
>>>running out of
>>> mail
>>> space.
>>> Thanks....
>>>
>>> Mary Lou Gomez, Sr. Network
Administrator
>>> Texas Guaranteed Student Loan Corp.
>>> TSDS - Systems Management
>>> 512-219-4980 (direct)
>>> 512-336-6644 (fax)
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>
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