Thank you Andy!  His email is about as clear as the Potomac River!

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator


Does this person have an alternate recipient defined for his/her mailbox?



P.S. Your initial explanation of your problem was not very clear at all. 
You stated :

>>>"It's being delivered to the .pst file because I don't have room on 
>>>the server for more than 600 MB of email! Yes I know all about .pst 
>>>files
being
>>>not the ideal place to store email, but I can't bring down the server
right
>>>now, just to add hard drive!"

That to me sounds like your mail server has only 600 MG of available space,
not:

>>> "I didn't say I have 600MB left on our mail server. The user's .pst 
>>>file is 600MB.  We have whole bunch of salespeople and others, who 
>>>have each
at least
>>>that much email."    (Which you stated later)

Andy



-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 4:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator


I don't have time for this kinda BS.
Except for some useless trash talk, you still couldn't figure it out either!
Here is a tip for you: Mr. BIGSHOT KNOW IT ALL, learn some manners!

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator


I understand that there is a "care bear" exchange list you can subscribe to.
Maybe you should try there...

Item #1: Email doesn't necessarily say what you mean
Item #2: Sure she can talk for herself.  However, we've been around here for
quite a few years so we tend to say what we want. Item #3: I saw that, she's
a very nice person and I would expect that of her. Item #4: I have been in
that position before with the exact opposite results you came up with.  I
wonder why... Item #5: Your point is what?!?  My mailbox is 700MB, I've seen
others over a GB.  Big Deal, I've got plenty of disk space and I would never
nor will I ever advocate the use of PST's with an Exchange server. 
Item #6: Apparently not.  Not likely.   Waaahhhhhh...
Item #7: Here's $.35, call someone who cares and ask for a refund.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator



1- I was trying to clarify my situation better for her.
   Contrary to what you thought, I wasn't trying to be condescending to her.

2- Even if I did, can't talk for herself?! Who are you, her lawyer??!
   Still it doesn't give you the right to insult people like that. And you
call
   yourself a computer professional??!

3- She responded to my email without any of the trash talk you did!

4- I am fully aware of our email system is not properly configured, but it's
not
   because I don't know what is the best way to do it, it's because:
   A) No matter how many times I've told them, management doesn't want to
listen to me. 
   B) It doesn't want to spend money.
   C) It's not a high priority
   D) The only time they would approve is when a disaster
      happens. This is typical of this company. You gotta work in my company
      to know what I'm talking about.

5- I didn't say I have 600MB left on our mail server. The user's .pst file
is 600MB.
   We have whole bunch of salespeople and others, who have each at least
that much email.

6- I wasn't looking for advice how to set up our email system. I know my
stuff well enough.
   I was just looking for an explanation for this. Instead what I got in
return was insult from you
   and advice on how to set up my mail server and sarcastic remarks from
others, except
   one person, who was actually trying to help me out.
7- So much for my wishful thinking that I can get help here!



-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator


He/she who properly configures his/her doesn't have problems.  Apparently,
you don't follow this model.  

You're the one who started the "Again: User is currently out..." like Lori
is stupid and can't read.  I merely upgraded to the level deemed necessary
for you.  Call me what you want, think of me what you may...  Fact still
remains, you're housing improperly configured servers and clients.  I more
than "get it", you can't dignify anything because you have nothing useful to
dignify.

Configure your sh!t properly and then come talk some trash.  Til then...
PEACE OUT!

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator


What kind of language is this??? WTF you think you are??!!!
If you're so thick that you don't get it, don't go insulting people. I'm not
gonna dignify you with an explanation, cause you're too much of a DA to get
it!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator


Again JackA$$!!  If you have an Exchange server, WTF are you popping mail to
a PST file for?

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator


Again: User is currently out of office and not poping email. Therefore all
new emails are going to sit on the server. They'll stay there until she/he
opens up Outlook and pops them. Then they'll be on the .pst file. The point
is email is being delivered, while the sender is receiving a bounced message
to the contrary, back from System Administrator.

It's being delivered to the .pst file because I don't have room on the
server for more than 600 MB of email! Yes I know all about .pst files being
not the ideal place to store email, but I can't bring down the server right
now, just to add hard drive!

I'm looking to find out why is this happening?

-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator


Then why do you say user is receiving the mails if it's supposed to be
delivered to PST and it's sitting on the server?  And why oh why is it
DELIVERED to a PST when you have a server?

Once again, PSTs have their uses but delivery point is not one of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator


User is out of office. Mail is delivered to .pst,
but now is sitting in the mailbox on the server.
There are limits, but the user is not over.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator


Wow, that Joe Blow and User X sure do get around.  I must be the only
Exchange admin who has never worked with them.

What's happening on that client?  Delivery to store or PST?  Limits?  Is he
over?

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Weird message from System Administrator


EX5.5 SP4 - NT4

Whenever anyone is sending email to user X, they get the following message
back from System Administrator:

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

      Subject:  Test#2
      Sent:     10/26/2001 1:04 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

      Joe Blow on 10/26/2001 1:04 PM
            The recipient was unavailable to take delivery of the message
        The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=VISIONICS;l=S-MAIL-011026170419Z-1270
            MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:JERSEY CITY:S-MAIL

But the weird thing is the user X is actually receiving all the emails. Any
ideas why this is happening?



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