Being an "input device" for my boss does not sound like my kind of job!
-----Original Message----- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator I think if an admin lets his [1] boss make all the technical decisions and provide no input of his own, then he's not doing his job. I don't understand why people should be afraid of their bosses either. You're supposed to provide technical expertise to ideas that come from management or solutions to problems they identify. That's why they pay you. If an admin is nothing more than a mere input device for management, he doesn't deserve the title "admin". S./ [1] I just assumed this admin to be male to avoid an endless string of he/she's. No offense. -----Original Message----- From: Quiram, Nadia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator Every admin here is afraid of their boss and will do what he says just to keep him off their backs. -----Original Message----- From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator Just for my own edification, what was it? -----Original Message----- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator I figured it out myself, Mr. Manners! That shows how much you know, despite your bigshot attitude! -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 4:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator Thank you Andy! His email is about as clear as the Potomac River! -----Original Message----- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator Does this person have an alternate recipient defined for his/her mailbox? P.S. Your initial explanation of your problem was not very clear at all. You stated : >>>"It's being delivered to the .pst file because I don't have room on >>>the server for more than 600 MB of email! Yes I know all about .pst >>>files being >>>not the ideal place to store email, but I can't bring down the server right >>>now, just to add hard drive!" That to me sounds like your mail server has only 600 MG of available space, not: >>> "I didn't say I have 600MB left on our mail server. The user's .pst >>>file is 600MB. We have whole bunch of salespeople and others, who >>>have each at least >>>that much email." (Which you stated later) Andy -----Original Message----- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 4:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator I don't have time for this kinda BS. Except for some useless trash talk, you still couldn't figure it out either! Here is a tip for you: Mr. BIGSHOT KNOW IT ALL, learn some manners! -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator I understand that there is a "care bear" exchange list you can subscribe to. Maybe you should try there... Item #1: Email doesn't necessarily say what you mean Item #2: Sure she can talk for herself. However, we've been around here for quite a few years so we tend to say what we want. Item #3: I saw that, she's a very nice person and I would expect that of her. Item #4: I have been in that position before with the exact opposite results you came up with. I wonder why... Item #5: Your point is what?!? My mailbox is 700MB, I've seen others over a GB. Big Deal, I've got plenty of disk space and I would never nor will I ever advocate the use of PST's with an Exchange server. Item #6: Apparently not. Not likely. Waaahhhhhh... Item #7: Here's $.35, call someone who cares and ask for a refund. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator 1- I was trying to clarify my situation better for her. Contrary to what you thought, I wasn't trying to be condescending to her. 2- Even if I did, can't talk for herself?! Who are you, her lawyer??! Still it doesn't give you the right to insult people like that. And you call yourself a computer professional??! 3- She responded to my email without any of the trash talk you did! 4- I am fully aware of our email system is not properly configured, but it's not because I don't know what is the best way to do it, it's because: A) No matter how many times I've told them, management doesn't want to listen to me. B) It doesn't want to spend money. C) It's not a high priority D) The only time they would approve is when a disaster happens. This is typical of this company. You gotta work in my company to know what I'm talking about. 5- I didn't say I have 600MB left on our mail server. The user's .pst file is 600MB. We have whole bunch of salespeople and others, who have each at least that much email. 6- I wasn't looking for advice how to set up our email system. I know my stuff well enough. I was just looking for an explanation for this. Instead what I got in return was insult from you and advice on how to set up my mail server and sarcastic remarks from others, except one person, who was actually trying to help me out. 7- So much for my wishful thinking that I can get help here! -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator He/she who properly configures his/her doesn't have problems. Apparently, you don't follow this model. You're the one who started the "Again: User is currently out..." like Lori is stupid and can't read. I merely upgraded to the level deemed necessary for you. Call me what you want, think of me what you may... Fact still remains, you're housing improperly configured servers and clients. I more than "get it", you can't dignify anything because you have nothing useful to dignify. Configure your sh!t properly and then come talk some trash. Til then... PEACE OUT! -----Original Message----- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator What kind of language is this??? WTF you think you are??!!! If you're so thick that you don't get it, don't go insulting people. I'm not gonna dignify you with an explanation, cause you're too much of a DA to get it!!! -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator Again JackA$$!! If you have an Exchange server, WTF are you popping mail to a PST file for? -----Original Message----- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator Again: User is currently out of office and not poping email. Therefore all new emails are going to sit on the server. They'll stay there until she/he opens up Outlook and pops them. Then they'll be on the .pst file. The point is email is being delivered, while the sender is receiving a bounced message to the contrary, back from System Administrator. It's being delivered to the .pst file because I don't have room on the server for more than 600 MB of email! Yes I know all about .pst files being not the ideal place to store email, but I can't bring down the server right now, just to add hard drive! I'm looking to find out why is this happening? -----Original Message----- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator Then why do you say user is receiving the mails if it's supposed to be delivered to PST and it's sitting on the server? And why oh why is it DELIVERED to a PST when you have a server? Once again, PSTs have their uses but delivery point is not one of them. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator User is out of office. Mail is delivered to .pst, but now is sitting in the mailbox on the server. There are limits, but the user is not over. -----Original Message----- X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird message from System Administrator Wow, that Joe Blow and User X sure do get around. I must be the only Exchange admin who has never worked with them. What's happening on that client? Delivery to store or PST? Limits? Is he over? -----Original Message----- From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird message from System Administrator EX5.5 SP4 - NT4 Whenever anyone is sending email to user X, they get the following message back from System Administrator: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Test#2 Sent: 10/26/2001 1:04 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: Joe Blow on 10/26/2001 1:04 PM The recipient was unavailable to take delivery of the message The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=VISIONICS;l=S-MAIL-011026170419Z-1270 MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:JERSEY CITY:S-MAIL But the weird thing is the user X is actually receiving all the emails. 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