If you installed fresh Exchange 2k, you don't need to run those tools.
They RAN themselves behind the scene already.  However, if you DO have
the older exchange and wanna still talk to it after you E2K install,
there are a couple of steps you have to do first.  If you wanna to know
more, there are plenty of KB articles you can find on MS.  

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:30 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: Forest and domain prep
Subject: RE: Forest and domain prep


I apologize for chiming in here late, but I have question.

Do you NEED to run these tools? What exactly are they for and what do
they do? I set up AD at home on one box and installed exchange on that
box. Should I have run these before I installed exchange? Should I run
them now?

I have never upgraded from NT 4 or an earlier version of exchange. I am
assuming these tools are only for if you are migrating, correct?

Thanks,

********************
Mike Carlson
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http://www.domitianx.com

Master Of The Spoon People
Keeper Of None
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Forest and domain prep


Well, it causes an entire replication of the GC schema and I suppose I
wouldn't want to be mucking about in it too much... How's 0300 GMT on
Saturday work for ya?

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Forest and domain prep
> 
> 
> So it's not like other databases where you don't want people logged in

> during schema updates?  I was just covering my behind in making sure 
> that users accessing resources in AD wouldn't cause issues.  When we 
> did our first forest prep in our test lab, it failed.  But when we ran

> it again, it worked.  Only difference was, the first time, we were 
> goofing around with AD (checking permissions, creating new users, etc)
> 
> I guess I'm just a tad bit nervous.  This has to work on the first try

> or we
> will have some pretty ticked off directors.    
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wilson Varghese
> NT Systems Manager
> KMV, LLC
> Office: (415)229-0726
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:33 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:      RE: Forest and domain prep
> 
> Forestprep and domainprep don't cause outages, so I might ask you to 
> rephrase the question? Replication of the changes could take weeks 
> depending on the environment. It took about 60 minutes for me to 
> install and configure E2K including forestprep and domainprep in my 
> lab last night. Course I've done it once or twice before...
> 
> Chris
> --
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:53 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Forest and domain prep
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone know if there is a formula to calculate the amount of
> > time it will take to do a forest prep and domain prep for a Exchange

> > 2000 migration?
> > 
> > 
> > Or can someone give me some numbers on how long it took you to do it

> > when you did the migration?
> > 
> > I am just trying to see what kind of an outage window I should
> > prepare for, but don't see any documentation on this.
> > 
> > Thanks for any info you can provide.
> > 
> > Wilson Varghese
> > NT Systems Manager
> > KMV, LLC
> > Office: (415)229-0726
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
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