Dan,

You're right, offline folders wouldn't help alleviate the mailbox size
restriction problem......

There's still the question:  Is storage space on your file server less
expensive than on your Exchange server?  If there's a good reason that some
users need more than 400 Mb worth of storage space, why make them split
things into PST's?

PST's on file servers aren't "bad" per-say, just a waste of time and
resources and a potential headache for the admin...

Joe Pochedley
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cartoonist Scott Adams once said. 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies


thanks for your comment ed.

i like the idea of offline folders, but surely these would just be mirrors
of the users mailbox, or a subset thereof. That's not what's needed
here...the users need to archive data so they stay under the store limit and
can send mail. I don't see how an offline folder could be used in this
manner. 

am i missing something about offline folders?

dan.

> I'm not going to argue with you on your point, but I suggest that 
> offline folders might be more appropriate.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, 
> Daniel
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies
> 
> 
> ok, check this pst scenario:
> 
> exchange site in uk, 450 users, 400mb mailbox limit, 30gb store.
> 
> servers are located in london, remote sites in northern cities connect 
> via 2mbps links.
> 
> users often hit the mailbox limit and have to archive to pst.
> in london,
> they just move items to a pst on their local disk, and we 
> make sure that
> they understand their data is no longer available via OWA or backed up
> nightly.
> 
> in the northern cities, the techs have put the PST's onto network 
> drives. i immediately yelled "pst on net drives = bad" but their 
> philosophy is that they have plentiful disk space on their file 
> servers and a fast network, so they do this to gain the advantage of
> backing up
> the pst's.
> 
> i can't think of any good reason to persuade them to store
> the pst's on
> local hard drives, and i think that's because there isn't one. 
> 
> dan.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 11 January 2002 06:11
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject:  RE: Slightly OT: PST policies
> > 
> > 
> > That's fine [1] but keep them off file servers.
> > 
> > [1] not really
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> > Tech Consultant
> > Compaq Computer
> > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral 
> > problems."
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Cook, David A.
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies
> > 
> > 
> > I have read all those things about PST=BAD and I have used all of 
> > those. I gave my suggestion of do not allow any PSTs and I was told 
> > that we have to allow PSTs. The reasons is the best part of the 
> > whole thing, "they have always been able to use PSTs so we can't 
> > take that away from
> > them". Politics is the problem. 
> > 
> > The more I'm thinking about this the madder it makes me. I've given 
> > this recommendation before and then this time I was asked to give 
> > the recommendation again so it could be taking to the powers that
> > be. I give
> > my recommendation and I'm told it is not acceptable. I'm pretty much
> > being given the recommandation and being told that it is my
> > recommendation now justify it. I can't justify the wrong decision.
> > 
> > So that was my rant that you all could care less about but
> thank you
> > everyone for the input.
> > 
> > 
> > Dave Cook
> > Exchange Administrator
> > Kutak Rock, LLP
> > 402-231-8352
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
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