Greetings All,

If this is getting OT, I am sure you will let me know real fast.

Regarding this VPN stuff - I understand completely, the concepts
behind it - now I need to implement it.  This doesn't necessarily
need to be hardware related does it?

Can't I simply install some software on the Clients and the Server
that allows them to login to the server, and begin an encrypted
session?  This is getting a little beyond my expertise.

What kind of products are you all using to accomplish this
complicated task?  I remember in the past when PPTP came out
from Microsoft, but have not heard much about it lately.

Thanks again everyone, you are all lifesavers!

Mike

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AWESOME! -

That's precisely the answer I was looking for.

This list is awesome :)

Mike

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We have 60+ salesmen and engineers who connect via 56K modem dial up while
on the road to access their email with Outlook/Exchange through a VPN...
Everything works well, though a bit slowly at times, but not so slow as to
be unusable or unbearable.

You can do away with IMAP completely if you like...  Outlook allows you to
create an Offline Folder file, which is a local copy of the information
stored on the Exchange server...  With the offline folder file, users can
continue to work with Outlook and maintain full functionality whether
they're connected or not and will automatically synchronize (send, receive
mail, update calendar, contacts, tasks, etc) whenever they are connected...

Look in the help files for Outlook for help setting up Offline Access...
There's also plenty of info at Microsoft and other sites that explain how to
set this up and use it (it's pretty simple)....

Joe Pochedley
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cartoonist Scott Adams once said.
"I especially like the whooshing
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:26 PM
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Okay -

I like the VPN route - and use Outlook 2000 as it was intended.

BUT, what kind of Network Overhead is involved - when connecting remotely
over a potentially slow connection?  Will it take forever for folders to
come up, especially if they are unusually large?

Also, if the client cannot connect for some reason (which has been happening
A LOT lately - due to massive service problems), what is the best solution
to still have your old e-mail inside of Outlook?  I was thinking this would
be where IMAP really comes into it's own - because you can still keep your
mail local, and on the server too - and when the connection comes back up,
you just resynchronize everything - and you are good to go.

Thanks for your continued responses,

Mike

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Get rid of POP
IMAP could work
OWA is great

Best: Get a VPN and use the regular Exch/OL combo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:30 AM
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Subject: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question)


Hello,

Our present scenario is the following:  Corporate users, that have a PC on
their desk.  These users, *may* travel to another location in which they
will use a PC sitting on someone else's desk.  And about half of these
employees will have a laptop - in which they work from home, and travel on
the road.  Either way, they need to have access to all new mail that comes
in, in addition to all their old mail, so they can always have the ability
to refer to any old messages.

In all of these cases, they need access to their e-mail.  Before we
installed our Exchange Server, we were using POP3 access exclusively and as
we all know, POP3 clients typically pull their mail from the server, when
retrieving their messages.  Yes, you CAN set things up to leave their mail
on the server, but things get funny once in a while, and their mail clients
lose track of what messages they have already retrieved from the server,
versus which ones they already have on their hard drive. (so sometimes, they
have like a 1,000 new messages, when in reality they only have a few new
ones)  I am sick of dealing with that problem - because it happens way too
often.

Also, some people accidentally leave their machines on when they go home at
night.  All just to go home and find out that they have no new messages -
because their office PC steals all their e-mail.

We just migrated our users from Ipswitch's IMail server, to our new Exchange
Box - and the above reasons are why we decided to do this. I am very
impressed with Exchange Server - although it is quite complex, I believe
it's the answer to all our problems.

NOW this is where I need your help.  I was thinking about doing the
following:

Get rid of POP3 altogether, and use IMAP from now on.  This way, the laptop
users can still take all their mail with them when they travel and still
have their old mail they can refer to if they are unable to get online to
connect to the server.

I believe IMAP allows you to synchronize your local mail with the mail on
the server correct?  Also, for corporate users with their own laptop OR
those that only have access to a public terminal - I was thinking that they
could use OWA to handle all of their e-mail issues.  And the fact that all
mail remains on the server at all times, no matter which method the
employees use to get their e-mail, the mail will always be there for them.

So bottom line is - IMAP and OWA correct?  Are there any other suggestions
that anybody can offer to help tackle this problem?

Thanks in advance - and sorry for the long post,

Mike


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