Based upon this description, you'd be better off using the IIS stmp service
configured to forward mail to your production IMS on the box instead of an
"invisible imc" .  I'm not sure if I completely understand the situation,
but are you saying that you have an open relay that is accessible via the
internet and secured only by it not being published?  If so, I highly
suggest that you rethink your strategy, as security by obscurity is not a
good practice.  I'm a big fan of authenticated relay via SMTP using TLS for
encryption, but there are plenty of caveats to that approach too.

-Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 6:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IMS Costs


Big question.  We have a group of users that are 100% mobile and they don't
login to any RAS here so they login to local AT&T ISP depending on what
state/city they are in.  Based on this we had to deploy a 'invisible SMTP'
server just these people because we had to have our registered SMTP server
be relay secure.

We couldn't do authentication or specific IP's and block relaying because
the group of users would only be able to submit email to people in the site
and not be able to send email back out to the internet.

I brought the original problem to this list over a year ago and with much
talk the idea of the invisible SMTP was the solution.  The group of users
hates the OWA unfortunately.  I think it was actually ed that may have
suggested it.

The desired effect is to have a user submit a email to the IMS and wether
that person is internal or one of our mobile users, that email would reroute
to the registered SMTP and never leave via the invisible SMTP.

Does that all make sense?  Hope so.
e-

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IMS Costs

Cost is one of the last things evaluated in choosing a gateway. Since an
outbound IMS doesn't fail over, what's the design goal of having an
"invisible" SMTP server? And what is the desired behavior in comparison to
what you are  currently seeing?

-----Original Message-----
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IMS Costs

Hi

Exch 5.5 sp4 on win2k sp2

What would make internet email ignore( apparently )cost values of the IMS?

I have two IMS on separate machines, one is our registered mail server the
other is a invisible SMTP server.  The cost of the registered is 1 and the
cost of the invisible is 100.  But I'm seeing email que up on the invisible
server.  The invisible server is our mailbox server, could that have
something to do with it? 

e-

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