And Heck, if he is concerned about the Execs, he can always set their DIR individually per mailbox. quack.
-----Original Message----- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 >>Obviously i dont do BLB on all my servers That was not obvious to me from your posts. >>i have 82 sites with 114 exchange servers Excellent. You'll love moving to E2K! >>we do use blb on exchange servers that hold all the high level execs mailboxes. Well, good on you. I've never needed it. But then our high level execs were pretty bright. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kanee Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 i have a total of 3600 mailboxes and i do a blb daily included in my full backup of the exchange server, with each mailbox an average of 1gb and i have a fiber AIT tape library and use backupexec8.6 and i have not had a single issue with blb. Yes its true it takes longer than if you dont use blb and yes its true it increases the tape space beeded, but those are not good enough reasons to say "Oh BLB sucks, you absolutely should never use BLB" Backup exec is one of the if not the best backup software for exchange brick level backups. Arcserve users do not bother with BLB. Obviously i dont do BLB on all my servers, i do use deleted item retension, i have 82 sites with 114 exchange servers, we dont use blb on all of them, but we do use blb on exchange servers that hold all the high level execs mailboxes. -----Original Message----- From: "Peņa, Botp" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 Hi Kanee, I do use blb, but only for a chosen few. I have to do this since it was consuming our backup window and our tape (we have other things besides mail :-). I love blb folder level backup. It save me once (my boss gave me thumbs up when I recovered his beloved folder in minutes :-). I love the mailbox backup level too, it save me once, too (an admin screwed up with exmerge, wiping out a dozen mailboxes :-). Suffice it to say, blb is a great feature poorly implemented (by the backup sw or by exchange or both). If blb can backup w the speed and optimization of _normal_ dir/info store backup, then I will go back to doing full blb again. This is just humble opinion only. Thanks -botp > -----Original Message----- > From: kanee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:23 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 > > > All you funny guys have not given me a single reason as to > why you should not do brick level back ups and your comments > carry no value unless you back it up with some substance..and > hope none of funny cats are using arcserve as your backup > product, if you are i understand why you are so scared of > brick level backups... > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:36 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 > > > LOL! It's funny. > > I insert one little word and I agree with you: > > ITS ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY TO *NOT* DO BRICK LEVEL BACKUPS, IT > WILL SAVE YOU SO MUCH HEADACHE AND HEART ACHE LATER..TRUST ME. > > William > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kanee > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:32 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 > > > This has been a known issue with veritas products. The > mapi32.dll file is very sensitive and reports errors on > messages as cannot open and thus will show the status of > backup as failed. There isnt really much you can do about > this, except ask the user to delete the message its > referencing in the error message from his mailbox and empty > it from deleted items. > > I have spent some time with veritas and they point fingers at > microsoft and i spoke to microsoft and they point the fingers > back to veritas, veritas knows of this issue and they say > they are looking at a solution and should be out in the next > build for backup exec8.6, i know you use netbackup so maybe > you should look into their next build for netbackup. Even > though this error pops up and the overall status of the > backup job shows up as failed, the backup in actuality is > successful, you can restore the users mailbox and the only > thing missing would be those messages that it reported as > corrupted or cannot open. So dont loose any sleep over this > you are fine. > > dONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE TELLING YOU NOT TO DO BRICK LEVEL > BACKUPS, ITS ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY TO DO BRICK LEVEL BACKUPS, > IT WILL SAVE YOU SO MUCH HEADACHE AND HEART ACHE LATER..TRUST ME. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:31 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 > > > Thanks for the info. > > > > > > Well then, might i suggest, as Andy and no doubt other admins would > > recommend, that you should stop doing BLB's. Here are a few > links for > > you to ponder over. > > > > http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm > > > > http://www.exchangefaq.org/recovery/0004.php3 > > > > Regards > > > > Mr Louis Joyce > > Data Support Analyst > > > > -----Or _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. 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