It's always skiing or golf.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 2:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Lotus Notes help - sort of


Lots of politics (and ski trips! - none for me though)

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Lotus Notes help - sort of


Notes is indeed a fine collaboration platform if you invest the
resources to hire programmers.  Exchange is a far better e-mail
platform.  I suspect the management making this decision are doing so
because of business partnership (meaning political pressure) reasons.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Weinstein
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Lotus Notes help - sort of


I agree with Chris - If the goal of the organization is collaboration (I
know I will get flamed for this) nothing beats Notes - I have managed
both environments each environment has its strength and weakness but in
terms of true collaboration and knowledge sharing Notes/Domino is the
stronger solution.

Domino and Exchange can coexist - Exchange handling e-mail while Domino
for collaboration - we are running in that configuration currently
without any problems - also to ease the pain for your users if you lose
the battle to management you should suggest iNotes for Outlook - end
users will still be able to have the outlook experience for accessing
e-mail, calendar, tasks and contacts - 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Lotus Notes help - sort of


IMHO it depends on what the company culture leans towards.
If it is hardcore collaboration and mail is an afterthought then Notes
might be the way to go; although Exchange is catching up day by day. If
it is hardcore mail and communicaiton of the one to one, one to many
type then Exhcange cannot be beat.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Smith Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:00 PM
Subject: Lotus Notes help - sort of


> All,
>
> Our corporate mangers have decided that we need to replace our 
> perfectly running Exchange system with Lotus Notes.
>
> The push for change is being led from the top (non-IT) managers; I 
> could
not
> find anyone at any IT personnel at our plants that was actually for 
> this change (Exchange to Domino)!  It probably has a lot to do with 
> IBM heavily courting these guys; our server standard was even changed 
> to IBM (imagine that!).  We're staying with our Compaq...I mean 
> HP...thank you very
much!!!
>
> We are gathering information to present a case NOT to migrate (we're 
> not going to go quietly!).  Any info that anyone could provide (case 
> studies, personal experience, etc.) to help strengthen our case would 
> be
appreciated.
> We're looking for more than just "I really hate it!"
>
> We're even considering keeping our Exchange server and just installing

> a gateway to the horrid system (any experiences with that?).
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Joseph Smith
>
> Network Administrator
> Perlos, Inc.
> 5201 Alliance Gateway
> Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
> Work: 817-224-9012
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: exmerge help
>
>
> Any Ideas? The Q article mentions:
>
> If you receive the following error:
>
> Error creating Message Service (MSPST MS)
> Make sure that Exchange client is installed on the computer that
Exmerge.exe
> is running on.
>
> Does anyone know if they literally mean the old exchange client or 
> will Outlook 2000 suffice? Anyone have any experience in this?
>
>
> ****************************************************************
> Microsoft Exchange Mailbox Merge Program, v1.62
> Start Logging:August 28, 2002   15:24:54
> ****************************************************************
> [15:24:54] Logging Level: None
> [15:25:20] Copying data from mailbox 'Hamilton, Brenda' ('BRENDA
HAMILTON')
> on Server 'KAO_JCI_XCH1' to file 'E:\EXMERGEPST\BRENDA HAMILTON.PST'. 
> [15:25:20] Error creating Message Service (MSPST MS) [15:25:20] Errors

> encountered. Copy process aborted [15:25:20] 0 mailboxes successfully
> processed. 1 errors encountered [15:25:20] Process completion time: 
> 00:00:00
>
>
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