In Continuation to my ranting.... Network machines... in the sense that the tape lirary is attahced to server A, and I tried to perfomr disaster recovery by backing up Server B, C D and E... over the Network.. since those poor buggars dont have a local backup device attached to them,.. I performed a full backup for all the machines.. created the boot disks... and tried to recover the lost souls... but after booting from the boot floppy, it kept searching for the backup device for an eternity... now I still dont understand why there is no special wizard with arcserve disaster recovery... to create the boot kit for a machine that you backedup on the network.. they provide only one wizard that supposedly creates boot kits for machines with local backup device connected as well as machines that are being backed up on the network....since for a mchine to be able to connect to the remote backup device.. they need the network drivers... I dont know if the boot kit creates them... generic that is... not even bothering to ask what kind of network card exists on my remote machines..... scared to ask CA this question.. since they ask you to pay first and then ask your stupid question later.
-----Original Message----- From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5 Hi Muqeem, 1. What do u mean by network machines ? I did a DRecovery, once rebooted, it did come back to my network and log on to network . Thanks Fioon -----Original Message----- From: Muqeem Syed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5 Importance: High First to address Karons Issue of only backing up the mailboxes.... incase of a server crash.. you will notbe able to recover the priv and pub databases... so it is wise to backup atleast once the databases... so that in case there is a server crash you can first restore the database.. and then restore the mailboxes from the most recent backup.... the mailbox backups.. as far as I can recall cannot be used to restore a dead server with failed or corrupt databases. The second issue of Fioon being able to perfomr a full disaster recovery... and adding chorus to Robert's woes... we have a tape library and using arcserve for th ebackup.. yes I was able to perfomr a disaster recovery as well... but only for the local machine... and none of the network machines so far have been able to come back on the disaster recovery. Another thing... for the disaster recovery to work.. CA says that you have to make a full backup with the arcserve agent on the remote machine.. that is all that is needed they said to make the disaster recovery kit... MICROSOFT SAYS FOR THE EXCHANGE SERVER THE M: IS A VIRTUAL DRIVE AND DO NOT... REPEAT DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACKUP OF PERFORM ANTIVIRUS SCANS.... CA HAS MENTIONED NOTHING ABOUT THAT SO FAR. POint number 2 noticed... though I succesfully staged the disaster recovery for the local machine on which the tape library is installed.... which incidentally hosts.. win 2k server note:WIN2K Server, at the time of the disaster recovery i was asked to pop in the CD for WIN2K ADVANCED SERVER "Please pop in your win2K Advanced Server CD" says the dialog box... Ok now me thinks that this is a typo error and instead doesnt want to listen to CA and pop in win2k server |CD instead... but the machine spits it out saying.. no way can I have that.. now be a good boy and pop in the advanced server CD... so I scramble my kit for the evaluation advanced server CD and pop it in thinking it aint gonna work either... but hey presto... it worked.... and there me completed the staging process of the disaster recovery, wondering if its Microsoft that more bizzare or ArcServe..... and me still suspicious that Bill Gates might have bought some stocks for ArcServe. Anyways... no point boring you with my tragic story. But me is still working on resolving the issue of being able to perform remote disaster recovery.. If some one has done that please let me know... -----Original Message----- From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5 Do you still remember the difficulty that you made on ArcServe ? Wondering ...... Thanks Fiooon -----Original Message----- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5 Would you believe currently NTBackup - the windows 2000 version - on all the servers I run which are the backoffice stuff like SQL, Exhange, and DCs. There are a few other servers where we still use arcserve for "simple file and print" server backups. We plan to do a full evaluation of what is out there next year when our new budget period starts, and other than "ditch arcserve", we have a fairly open mind about what to use instead. > -----Original Message----- > From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 04 October 2002 09:32 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5 > > > Hi Robert, > > So then, what software are you using & what is your current > software max quality & relibility > can provide ? > > Maybe i can apply !! > > Thanks > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:33 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5 > > > Yeah I've got an opinion on Brightstore sure enough, but as > many people operate filters on "naughty" words, I'll confine > myself to stating that it does not meet my minimum quality > and reliability standards for server software. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 04 October 2002 05:03 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5 > > > > > > > > I've download the BE trial copy , but it can't run. Funny, > > hang on Self Extract. Download again, same thing happened again. > > > > Any opinion on new ArcServe2000 BrightStore for the Disaster > > Recovery on Exchange 5.5 Issue ? > > > > Fioooooooon > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:53 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Re: Backing up Exchange 5.5 > > > > > > Yes, as a google search would have shown. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Fioon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:09 AM > > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5 > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > May i know which third party are you guys talking about on this > > > "Backup Exec" ? It's Veritas ?? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:20 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: Backing up Exchange 5.5 > > > > > > > > > I know this has come up before but how is everyone else backing up > > > their Exchange servers. We're using Backup Exec and only > > backing up > > > the mailboxes not the pub.edb or priv.edb. Is it wise to > > stop those > > > services periodically to back those up? And how often? 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