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-----Original Message-----
From: Muqeem Syed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 October 2002 10:18
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Importance: High


First to address Karons Issue of only backing up the mailboxes.... incase of a server 
crash.. you will notbe able to recover the priv and pub databases... so it is wise to 
backup atleast once the databases... so that in case there is a server crash you can 
first restore the database.. and then restore the mailboxes from the most recent 
backup.... the mailbox backups.. as far as I can recall cannot be used to restore a 
dead server with failed or corrupt databases.

The second issue of Fioon being able to perfomr a full disaster recovery... and adding 
chorus to Robert's woes... we have a tape library and using arcserve for th ebackup.. 
yes I was able to perfomr a disaster recovery as well... but only for the local 
machine... and none of the network machines so far have been able to come back on the 
disaster recovery.
Another thing... for the disaster recovery to work.. CA says that you have to make a 
full backup with the arcserve agent on the remote machine.. that is all that is needed 
they said to make the disaster recovery kit... 
MICROSOFT SAYS FOR THE EXCHANGE SERVER THE M: IS A VIRTUAL DRIVE AND DO NOT... REPEAT 
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACKUP OF PERFORM ANTIVIRUS SCANS.... CA HAS MENTIONED NOTHING ABOUT 
THAT SO FAR. 
POint number 2 noticed... though I succesfully staged the disaster recovery for the 
local machine on which the tape library is installed.... which incidentally hosts.. 
win 2k server  note:WIN2K Server, at the time of the disaster recovery i was asked to 
pop in the CD for WIN2K ADVANCED SERVER "Please pop in your win2K Advanced Server CD" 
says the dialog box... Ok now me thinks that this is a typo error and instead doesnt 
want to listen to CA and pop in win2k server |CD instead... but the machine spits it 
out saying.. no way can I have that.. now be a good boy and pop in the advanced server 
CD... so I scramble my kit for the evaluation advanced server CD and pop it in 
thinking it aint gonna work either... but hey presto... it worked.... and there me 
completed the staging process of the disaster recovery, wondering if its Microsoft 
that more bizzare or ArcServe..... and me still suspicious that Bill Gates might have 
bought some stocks for ArcServe.
Anyways... no point boring you with my tragic story. But me is still working on 
resolving the issue of being able to perform remote disaster recovery.. 
If some one has done that please let me know...

-----Original Message-----
From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5



Do you still remember the difficulty that you made on ArcServe ? 
Wondering ...... 

Thanks
Fiooon



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5


Would you believe currently NTBackup - the windows 2000 version - on all
the servers I run which are the backoffice stuff like SQL, Exhange, and
DCs. There are a few other servers where we still use arcserve for
"simple file and print" server backups. We plan to do a full evaluation
of what is out there next year when our new budget period starts, and
other than "ditch arcserve", we have a fairly open mind about what to
use instead.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 04 October 2002 09:32
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> So then, what software are you using & what is your current 
> software max quality & relibility 
> can provide ?
> 
> Maybe i can apply !! 
> 
> Thanks
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> Yeah I've got an opinion on Brightstore sure enough, but as 
> many people operate filters on "naughty" words, I'll confine 
> myself to stating that it does not meet my minimum quality 
> and reliability standards for server software.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 04 October 2002 05:03
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I've download the BE trial copy , but it can't run. Funny,
> > hang on Self Extract. Download again, same thing happened again. 
> > 
> > Any opinion on new ArcServe2000 BrightStore for the Disaster
> > Recovery on Exchange 5.5 Issue ? 
> > 
> > Fioooooooon
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:53 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, as a google search would have shown.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fioon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:09 AM
> > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > May i know which third party are you guys talking about on this
> > > "Backup Exec" ? It's Veritas ??
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:20 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I know this has come up before but how is everyone else backing up
> > > their Exchange servers.  We're using Backup Exec and only 
> > backing up
> > > the mailboxes not the pub.edb or priv.edb.  Is it wise to
> > stop those
> > > services periodically to back those up?  And how often?  We're not
> > > using the Open File Agent.
> > > 
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