I'm more interested in how often he has hardware failures. It sounds like a
common event!

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:45 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery
> 
> 
> Doesn't play hell with your SIS?
> 
> On 1/8/03 13:20, "John W. Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hey. 
> 
> We have multiple small exchange servers that do their backups 
> to recovery
> servers that have several mirrored drives so no single 
> production server has
> any of its backups on the same drive mirror.  With our 
> database size limit
> we have one recovery server for every three mail servers. In 
> addition we
> have at least one "hot spare" mail server. 
> 
> When there is an outage we note which folks are affected and 
> then recreate
> their (now empty) mailboxes on the recovery server to get 
> them back into
> email.  We then Exmerge the backed-up mail out of the backups 
> into the new
> mailboxes.  Some tlog juggling has to be done in order to 
> recover all mail,
> but it is fairly strait forward. 
> 
> Each of our servers costs ~6K using "off the shelf" 
> components. We learned
> the value of lots of small servers when our Dell PowerEdge 
> equipment crapped
> out on us repeatedly early last year.
> 
> You could probably do this with  three servers, then.  One 
> for production,
> one for recovery/backups and one hot spare.  Under your limit, though?
> Well, I guess that would depend on your shopping ability and 
> the components
> you choose.
> 
> John 
> 
> John W. Luther 
> Systems Administrator 
> Computing and Information Services 
> University of Missouri - Rolla 
> 
> At 11:02 AM 1/8/2003 -0800, Newsgroups wrote: 
> >I am not aware of a budget but when I mentioned the solution from 
> >"Marathon Technologies" they almost fell off their chairs.  
> I think they 
> >want to spend somewhere from $3k to $7K (Not sure, as they 
> have not told 
> >me anything).  I told them that for that price the best 
> thing they could 
> >do is have another server and do a daily restore of the 
> database on that 
> >box and if the main server dies put up the new one instead.  
> What do you 
> >think?  Any other ideas? 
> > 
> >Thanks 
> > 
> >-----Original Message----- 
> >From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >Posted At: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:48 AM 
> >Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups 
> >Conversation: Exchange 2000 Recovery 
> >Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery 
> > 
> >Seamless, transparent, automatic and cheap? Don't believe 
> such a high 
> >availability solution exists. Even overspeccing a single box 
> to ensure 
> >it's 
> >fully redundant gets rather expensive on a per user basis 
> for only 180 
> >users. What are the actual requirements surrounding the solution and 
> >what 
> >budget has been proposed to implement it? 
> > 
> >On 1/8/03 12:27, "Newsgroups" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >We are looking into different methods of recovery from 
> Exchange 2000.  I 
> > 
> >know there are several ways of doing this.  We want to be able to 
> >recover w/ out any user interaction (by that we mean it would be 
> >transparent to them and they don't want to be down for 4 to 
> 6 hours). 
> >We have about 180 users.  I know we can cluster them but 
> they don't want 
> > 
> >to go that route because of the cost.  Will software or hardware 
> >replication work and be transparent or are there any other 
> technologies 
> >that you may be aware of? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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