Thanks for the response, Stu. I'd like to add something. There are some other staff at my company who got the same message I refer to below (mentioning the IHS product, and requesting them to stop by at the MecEd conference). These people did *not* attend MecEd and should *not* have been on a list of people who were registered to do so. Yet they got this spam. Why is that?
As to the response from David Cragg: If it smells like a duck then it is a duck. How would any right minded email administrator be expected to react to a message with a "throwaway" address as a reply-to? This tactic of using several domains in the headers, from/reply-to addresses, etc. is the exact same tactic that a chickenboner spammer uses. Why use them? Stu, your company's credibility as a whitehat supplier of anti-spam products is seriously on the line. From a spam recipient's or victim's perspective, what is the difference between your product and the way in which the ad was delivered vs. any of the chickenboners who are also spamming for an antispam solution? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:38 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Cc: Stu Sjouwerman > > Hi Guys, > > We admit that this looked like spam a lot. I actually > called the people who sent it for us and complained. > The company who own this database and emailed it for > us are MSD2D, they have worked for years for Microsoft > building their trade show list and catalogs. That's why > you are on their list. > > Here is included the answer from their Pres, who explained > why it looks like this. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > "In response to your email today I admit that it has the > appearance of Spam. We apologize for that. We usually send > these type of announcements with our reply address but it > was a last minute mailer and we had already use our regular > mail box for our weekly Security newsletter. It was important > that we get that notice out to people who we thought might be > attending Tech-Ed as Sunbelt was accidentally left out of a > proper position in the Microsoft Exchange Directory. " > David Cragg > President > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Understandably you assumed it was spam, with a juno address > as the sender. Turns out this -is- what they use for their > returns. An unfortunate choice to say the least. Hope this > clarifies the situation. > > Warm regards, > > Stu > > ******************************************* > Stu Sjouwerman - Founder, Chief Operating Off. > Sunbelt Software, # 409 in the Inc. 500 List ~ > Editor W2Knews: 500,000 readers every week. > Publisher WinXPnews, 2Million subscribers > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Voice: 1-727-562-0101 x218 or (888) NT UTILS > Fax: 1-727-562-5199 or (877) 736-3444 > Web: http://www.sunbelt-software.com > and: http://www.w2knews.com > Snail Mail: 101 N Garden Ave, Suite 120 > Clearwater, FL, 33755 > ******************************************* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 8:54 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: SpamBelt > > > Not quite. > I'm merely pointing out the difference here ;) > > If Tom's talking about the same message I got today, it was "targeted" > to TechEd attendees, and not to any and every @$$hole who has ever > browsed Sunbelt's website (i.e. their normal "targeted" audience). > > Of course, Sunbelt's messages in this case can still be construed as > being vaguely requested (I get a boatload of junk from MEC/TechEd > vendors) - it is assumed that all MEC/TechEd vendors get the list of > attendees. > > The question remains why Sunbelt chose this particular message to look > extremely spammy (See Tom's note re: roving.com and juno). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thu 29-May-03 6:13 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Cc: > Subject: RE: SpamBelt > > > > Not only that, but since lots of us asked to be on the mailing > list of > Sunbelt.com it's not spam because we "opted" to have them send > us that kind of > stuff. > > Scott > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=& > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=&lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
