Well, that could exactly cause the problem why rules stop to work too. And I have tried a couple of the old style Exchange Event Scripts on Exchange 2000 SP2/SP3 without running into issues. So, if I'd be you I'd probably start investigating first here.
<Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" /> Development Lead, CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration Application Experts http://www.cdolive.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:44 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note > > > Events work great when they work and we have some running on > our PFs and mailboxes, but the event service has to be > restarted many times per week because of failures that cause > events in the logs that when you look up have nothing to do > with your problem. No, I haven't called PSS, but I should, > you're right. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:38 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note > > > I completely agree with you. We have tons of PF's designed > to receive mail as well. I have heard of the permissions > problem you describe as well - my wife's company is facing > that now too I think on some of their 30,000+ public folders. > > Rather than rules, perhaps some Event Sinks designed to work > on your most common applications would be worth developing > for the public folders. Not as easy as rules, but once done, > you could give the users a fairly easy interface to configure > the folder the way it needs to behave. > > Have you filed issues with PSS on these problems? I hope so. > If they never get the issues filed, they don't have the > visibility to the degree of the problem. If you have a TAM, > raise it there too. Continue the campaign to get the > functionality back that we had in 5.5 - Public Folders as a > shared mail repository. That simply disappeared in E2K. It > has only slightly returned in E2K3. with the ability to > reply/forward using OWA through a FrontEnd server. > > > > ======================================== > ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released! > http://www.swinc.com/erm ======================================== > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Posted At: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:06 PM > Posted To: Microsoft Exchange > Conversation: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note > Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note > > That's too bad. We have thousands of PFs and have always > encouraged people to opt for a PF rather than a mailbox > anytime they need somewhere to receive email to be viewed by > people who already had a mailbox. In 5.5, PFs worked pretty > much flawlessly. In 2000, they're terrible. The rules just > stop working intermittently. The PFs that receive mostly > outside mail are now posts, so the rules don't work at all on > those anymore. The user role permissions are finally cleaned > up so that Exchange 2000 can interpret them. We only have > replicas on one of our 2000 servers now since replication > caused too much latency. Sometimes, even though we have > owner permissions on all of the PFs, if we use Outlook 2002 > to view the properties, we're told we don't have permission, > but if we view them in OL2000, we can make whatever changes > an owner should be able to make. Searching for something in > PFs used to be a breeze when they were on our 5.5 servers, > now, you may or may not find what you're looking for even > though you know it's in there. > > We're getting to the point that it would be easier to create > mailboxes for the PFs that we constantly get called on, the > ones with rules that stop working, mostly, and that's such a > waste to have to create a mailbox when all you really need is > a PF. I'd guess we got maybe 10 PF calls in the 5 years > we've been running Exchange for actual problems with the > server, not the usual, user doesn't understand the > permissions calls, and now that we've moved our PFs to E2K, > we get at least 10 calls a week with PF server issues, if not > more. We've turned logging up to highest on everything to do > with PFs and nothing ever shows up in the logs to give us a > clue as to why they sometimes work and sometimes don't. When > the forwarding rules stop working, a server restart is the > only thing that fixes it. I'm really beginning to hate PFs. > When I went to MEC2000, in one of the classes, they said that > in E2K, you'd be able to change permissions on PFs without > replacing permissions - what happened to that? Wouldn't that > be helpful when you have thousands of PFs? I know, PFAdmin, > which may or may not work correctly. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:36 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note > > > The line is that it was actually broken in 5.5 and they > "fixed" it in E2K. > > Why there can't be a choice between Post type public folders > and Note (email message) type public folders I don't > understand. Actually I do - $$$. There /could/ be a choice > if enough people griped about it. At this point, E2K3 is > pretty much in the can and so it won't change much there. > > Since anything "collaborative" about public folders seems > headed toward Sharepoint databases, there's probably not much > harm in making PF's actually do mail correctly going forward. > > > ======================================== > ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released http://www.swinc.com/erm > ======================================== > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joshua R. Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Posted At: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:31 PM > Posted To: Microsoft Exchange > Conversation: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note > Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note > > Question then.... Why did they change the functionality? > It worked > in 5.5 > > > > > > > > Joshua Morgan > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note > > > 1. The script (which is a slightly modified version of > http://www.cdolive.com/changemessageclass.htm) your co-worker > found is designed for the Exchange Event Service which is > only provided in Exchange 2000/2003 for backwards > compatibility and I would not recommend using it with > Exchange 2000/2003 due to being not reliable. 2. The issue > you are facing not being able to reply to public folder > messages will neither be fixed with KB817809 nor the script > you mentioned or the one Andy Webb pointed you to. This is a > limitation of Outlook Web Access 2000. > > <Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" /> > > Development Lead, > > CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration > Application Experts http://www.cdolive.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joshua R. Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:58 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note > > > > > > Windows 2000 SP3 > > Exchange 2000 SP3 > > > > Looks like Microsoft released this yesterday. > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817809 > > > > Has anybody had any experience with this issue? We see it > because we > > are unable to reply or forward a message in a Public Folder > when it is > > > accessed through OWA. I was wondering if anyone had any workarounds > > until the SP is released, currently I am troubleshooting > issues with > > this Script that a coworker of mine found online. > > > http://www.netcomitc.com/post2note/esa.htm > > All help is appreciated, > Joshua > > > > > > > > > Joshua Morgan > Method IQ > Senior Network Engineer > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=& > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=& > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=& lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
