Thanks for your comments everyone. As of this morning, the mail is flowing again so 
they must have come to their senses overnight. 

That's an interesting tidbit about spammers prefering the alternate servers. I'd never 
heard that before, but it makes sense.

-Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:32
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delivery to Alternate MX Records


Not to mention too many places spend mucho lucre on protecting their main MX from spam 
and viruses and suchlike, then nominate a completely unfiltered secondary at their ISP 
which of course doesn't have all their carefully crafted filters on it.

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Tue 09/09/2003 13:16 
        To: Exchange Discussions 
        Cc: 
        Subject: RE: Delivery to Alternate MX Records
        
        

        Not only are they breaking their email, they are doing it for naught. Spammers 
often PREFER to use a target's second or third MX host. That way, their deluge doesn't 
have to compete with every one else's traffic.
        
        
        
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:01 AM
        To: Exchange Discussions
        Subject: RE: Delivery to Alternate MX Records
        
        
        The people you have spoken to are crack smoking maniacs, not an ISP support 
team. 4xx is a temporary error. This is an invitation to try again later. This is what 
you have.
        
        5.xx would be a fatal error; give up sending email bub it ain't going to 
happen. You'd see this if they'd deleted the mail accounts, blocked you from sending, 
whatever.
        
        To the best of my knowledge the only time that exchange or any other mail 
system "should" look for the next MX record is if it fails to connect to the first 
one. Not if it connects just fine and then gets told to try again later or sod off.
        
                -----Original Message-----
                From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Sent: Tue 09/09/2003 00:28
                To: Exchange Discussions
                Cc:
                Subject: Delivery to Alternate MX Records
               
               
        
                Hi All,
                I'm a bit puzzled by something and I'm hoping that someone can help 
out. There's a particular domain, seanet.com, that we can't send messages to at the 
moment. Any message sent to this domain hangs in the IMC queue with the error, 452 
4.3.0 Cannot write message to disk. According to this ISP's support group they've 
recently reconfigured their main mail server so it can no longer receive messages from 
the outside world, and I assume that the error we're seeing is a result of this 
reconfiguration. They further claim that our server should try to deliver messages to 
their second or third mail server, something it definitely isn't doing.
               
                So here are my questions. Should an Exchange server (5.5, by the way) 
try the next MX record after getting a 452 from the primary server, and are there any 
settings in Exchange that affect this behavior? As an additional philosophical 
question, does it strike anyone else as strange that they should deliberately put an 
essentially malfunctioning server at the address of their first MX record in the name 
of spam fighting and security?
               
                -Peter
               
               
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