These types of fights happen every few months on this list, and they are
always aired in public.

The resulting witch hunts can go too far, we should try and stop the insults
when personal slurs are made at people's reputations.  No individual becomes
a winner or loser, just the list as good contributors often leave as a
result.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

Then why do it on the list? Why not e-mail Ed directly? 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

All I was doing by responding was to attempt to get back to a common ground
of civility.

> Honestly I wasn't trying to get in a fight. Getting into an internet 
> fight is like the special Olympics, even if you win, you're still 
> retarded. My point was that if you truly were "over it" you wouldn't 
> have had the need to fell like you had respond.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:57 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
> 
> Here's a perfect example of people picking fights just to pick fights. 
> Let me break this down for you.
> 1. I posted a question to a community that is supposedly there to help 
> one and all, a community I helped build 2. I get a rude reply from Ed 
> 3. I brush this off and simply tell Ed to play nice 4. I get another, 
> even ruder reply 5. I post a reply back asking why the continued rude 
> behavior. I posted this because I honestly don't know what the problem 
> is and am interested in at least achieving a civil relationship 
> between Ed and I. We don't have to be buddies, but we can at least be 
> civil. Yes, I have moved on from our differences of opinion, it is not 
> anything that I am losing sleep over, believe me. But this does not 
> somehow mean that I cannot extend an offer of civility.
> 
> The real question is why wouldn't I respond to rude behavior with an 
> offer of civility? I try to find some middle ground of civility and 
> all you want to do is fight and nit-pick over words and try to make 
> trouble. That's too bad, I guess no good deed goes unpunished.
> 
> > "Why a difference of opinion on a single subject causes you to 
> > continually complain and be rude is beyond my ability to comprehend. 
> > I would prefer if you found it within yourself to get over it, move 
> > on and be civil. I have."
> > 
> > I just have one question about this. If you've moved on, then why 
> > did you feel the need to respond?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg 
> > Deckler
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:55 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, I have a fundamental, philosophical problem with the MVP program.
> > Regardless of any direct compensation in the form of nik naks, etc. 
> > the bestowing of honorary titles is a perk and is more valuable to 
> > some than a monetary reward. Hence, in my opinion, it is a conflict 
> > of interest and not something that professional IT personnel should 
> > engage in. At one point back around the 1996/1997 timeframe I was 
> > offered MVP status and turned it down because of this.
> > 
> 
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