I'm so impressionable... -----Original Message----- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I can see how you'd come to that conclusion in the Bizarro Deckler Universe (BDU). Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 "To never accept compensation from vendors for recommending products" Hmmmm... I get it now!!! All of the MVP's "RECOMMEND" MS products on the various newsgroups, they don't actually "SUPPORT" the products... See Ed, you've been recommending that everyone use an MS Solution this whole time, you haven't been offering support of said products... That's why you and all the MVP's are wrong about this Code of Ethics... -----Original Message----- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 http://www.infonition.com/marathon.shtml Interesting. > -----Original Message----- > From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:31 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > > As a Microsoft Partner, does your company get any freebies? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:18 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > Alright, this is a good question. Bottom line is that if, as the > hiring body, you don't care then ethics are irrelevant in your > decision and you do what you want. Ethics do not have to be the end > all, be all of decision making. And, it is also absolutely not the > case that MVP's will always recommend Microsoft software for their own > personal gain. > > You are exactly correct, you have final say about what you feel is and > is not relevant about your hiring decisions. But, this does not change > the situation that the MVP title is a real or perceived conflict of > interest. > Of course it is, but whether or not you care is up to you. > > > My company, Consolidated Widgets, Inc., has previously decided to = > > standardize on MS software at all levels. When it comes > time to make > > hiring = decisions, whether for FTEs or for conslutants, > how should I > > proceed? Let's take = the example of an Exchange > deployment project. > > =20 > > > > First thing to be decided:=20 > > Do I want a generic technologist? > > Do I want an unrelated technology guru? > > Do I want a Windows/Exchange guru? > > > > Assuming I choose the last option: > > Do I want someone who has heard of Exchange and may be able to help > > with = my deployment after reading some books? > > Do I want someone who is an expert, and can demonstrate their > > expertise somehow? > > > > The demonstration of the expertise is all that the MVP > status is, IMO. > > = You don't attain MVP status by sending in a bunch of cereal box > > tops, as one = can do to get an MCSE. =20 > > > > You whole premise is that an employee/conslutant with an MVP will > > automatically recommend technology from their masters *for > their own = > > personal gain*. I don't see this being the case. If I'm hiring Ed > > (to use him = as an > > example) to help with my Exchange migration, I've already > made the = > > decision to use that MS technology. At that point, I want the best > > person I can = find and afford. Why hire a consultant, if not for > > their knowledge? > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang = english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
