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-----Original Message----- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evault vs. tape backups You like my phrase ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:09 Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > Here is our validation... In the event something goes wrong and > either of us were to call PSS (god forbid), they would most likely > tell us "DUDE, You > are so NOT supported". > > The DR Whitepapers are pretty specific. There are many ways to backup > an Exchange server. There are right ways and there are wrong ways. > However, in order to best ensure that you are always able to recover > your exchange server without losing any email, one should follow the > DR steps that MS outlines and one should practice test restores. > > I do online backups of my exchange server with NT Backup right now. Mostly > because my soon to be ex-boss uses ArcCrap to backup the network. > When I migrated them from Send Mail to Exchange I specifically noted > that they will > NOT install ArcCrap on my Exchange server that I'll use plain old > vanilla NT > Backup. Do I like using NT Backup, no, not really, but I am > re-evaluating our backup solution now so I can put something more > reliable to me in place > that backups the entire enterprise... > > D > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:47 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Didn't want this to get into the debate it's becoming. > but: > Although people's "current" environment is being taken care of in the > most reliable manner. that's fine for right now, they've not had any > problems, so > they tend to become comfortable/complacent. I respect Don's and > William's opinions', but every once in awhile I (as well as others i'm > sure) require validation as to how they came to those opinions. and > that's was the intent > here. > > you are comfortable in your current environment, that may or may not > be alright 6 months down the road. we don't know what Laura's current > setup is, > or what it is going to be and she asked the question. and just because > the premier gurus' of the forum here, state it "is" or "is not" a good > idea. I just want to know why? I'm sure it's based on a lot of > experience, a Lot of > luck, and proactive administration. but with anything, there's always > room for growth either in knowledge or software. > > Thought it was a pretty simple and generic question actually > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:58 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Yeah, and I'm pretty sure William mentioned that... "No, I wouldn't > trust such a setup for Exchange. Other file data, perhaps. NTBackup > on Windows2000 backs up to disk." > > He then provided links to various sites. It wouldn't and shouldn't be > a trusted setup. Those links give various options I would imagine. I haven't > read them nor will I as I know how I backup exchange. Which is in the most > reliable manner. > > D > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:00 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Yabbut the question was what's wrong with the non-tape solutions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:44 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > He posted links to all the various vendors so one could go to each one > and evaluate how their product works with exchange and see the error > in their original thinking. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:40 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > I realize it's friday, and the caffiene levels aren't where they > should be..but i'm Curious, that's a generic statement to make don't > you think? you > say "No, I wouldn't trust such a setup for Exchange." but don't go on > to say > as to why?... so, i guess the question I'm asking is .. "why" wouldn't > you trust such a setup for Exchange?, but yet as one of the links you > post, you > post evault :o) > > curious minds want to know(or at least mine does) > > Dal > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Swartout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:18 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Thank you, William! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:31 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > Did we digress again? > > No, I wouldn't trust such a setup for Exchange. Other file data, > perhaps. NTBackup on Windows2000 backs up to disk. > > If you like this kind of storage, here are some others to consider: > Connected http://www.connected.com FreeDrive http://www.freedrive.com > X Drive http://www.xdrive.com Driveway http://www.driveway.com > Maxisafe http://www.maxisafe.com Managed Storage http://www.sgii.com > E-store http://www.e-stor.net @Backup http://www.backup.com > StoreActive http://www.storactive.net BackUpNet > http://www.backupnet.com eVault.com http://www.evault.com MySpace > http://www.freediskspace.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Swartout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:20 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Okay thank you. But I was curious if anyone has any experience with > Evault and how they liked/disliked it vs. tape backups. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:14 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > Ahem. > > Lovely weather we're having, eh? > > William > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:13 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Forget to change a tape? [1] > > [1] Hi William > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 15:09 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > No backups on Sundays. > > The other two... well... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:11 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > what happened to the other 54 times? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 15:06 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > I got it to work 311 times in 2001. > > William > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:07 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > I heard this backup s/w called NTBACKUP was nice... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Swartout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 17:33 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Evault vs. tape backups > > > We're looking at replacing our ArcServe backup software with a more reliable > solution such as BackUp Exec or Evault. > > Is anyone using Evault? If so how to you like it compared to tape > backups? > > > Thanks - Laura > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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