Laura, I presume that if you're doing BLBs with the ArcServe Exchange agent you are also doing on-line Exchange backups through the same agent? If not, the first thing I would do (like now, while planning any other changes) is stop doing the BLBs and start doing the on-line backups of the Directory and Information Store.
Karen (Who doesn't really understand why all the anti-ArcServe feeling: I've not had major problems with it and get consistently good backups from which I can restore files, Exchange servers, SQL databases, PDCs etc ...) > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Swartout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 January 2002 17:42 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > WOW! Didn't expect the debate either! It's getting fun though. > > I'll give a little background here: I'm responsible for a > small network (6 > NT4 servers and approx 100 workstations). This is my first IT > job so my > experience is limited to the 2 years I've been at this > company. I inherited > the current setup which is ArcServe 2000 on 2 servers; each > server has an > older model Exabyte tape drive backing up to 8mm tapes, and > one server doing > brick-level backups of Exchange. Yes I've been reading how > bad they are and > why and now have my boss convinced that we need to change our > backup method > which is why I'm doing research and asking questions of those with the > experience. > > I don't want to replace our current solution with new tape drives and > software if that technology is fading and giving way to something like > Evault or CommVault Galaxy. And I don't want to base my decision on a > recommendation from an eager salesman. > > > > Always looking for growth and knowledge wherever I can find > it, there's a > lot to wade through out there. > > Thanks again - Laura > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:47 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > Didn't want this to get into the debate it's becoming. > but: > Although people's "current" environment is being taken care > of in the most > reliable manner. > that's fine for right now, they've not had any problems, so > they tend to > become comfortable/complacent. > I respect Don's and William's opinions', but every once in > awhile I (as well > as others i'm sure) require validation as to how they came to those > opinions. and that's was the intent here. > > you are comfortable in your current environment, that may or > may not be > alright 6 months down the road. > we don't know what Laura's current setup is, or what it is > going to be and > she asked the question. > and just because the premier gurus' of the forum here, state > it "is" or "is > not" a good idea. I just want to know why? > I'm sure it's based on a lot of experience, a Lot of luck, > and proactive > administration. > but with anything, there's always room for growth either in > knowledge or > software. > > Thought it was a pretty simple and generic question actually > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:58 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Yeah, and I'm pretty sure William mentioned that... "No, I > wouldn't trust > such a setup for Exchange. Other file data, perhaps. NTBackup on > Windows2000 backs up to disk." > > He then provided links to various sites. It wouldn't and > shouldn't be a > trusted setup. Those links give various options I would > imagine. I haven't > read them nor will I as I know how I backup exchange. Which > is in the most > reliable manner. > > D > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:00 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Yabbut the question was what's wrong with the non-tape solutions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:44 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > He posted links to all the various vendors so one could go to > each one and > evaluate how their product works with exchange and see the > error in their > original thinking. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:40 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > I realize it's friday, and the caffiene levels aren't where > they should > be..but i'm Curious, that's a generic statement to make don't > you think? you > say "No, I wouldn't trust such a setup for Exchange." but > don't go on to say > as to why?... so, i guess the question I'm asking is .. "why" > wouldn't you > trust such a setup for Exchange?, but yet as one of the links > you post, you > post evault :o) > > curious minds want to know(or at least mine does) > > Dal > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Swartout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:18 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Thank you, William! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:31 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > Did we digress again? > > No, I wouldn't trust such a setup for Exchange. Other file > data, perhaps. > NTBackup on Windows2000 backs up to disk. > > If you like this kind of storage, here are some others to consider: > Connected http://www.connected.com FreeDrive > http://www.freedrive.com X > Drive http://www.xdrive.com Driveway http://www.driveway.com Maxisafe > http://www.maxisafe.com Managed Storage http://www.sgii.com E-store > http://www.e-stor.net @Backup http://www.backup.com StoreActive > http://www.storactive.net BackUpNet http://www.backupnet.com > eVault.com > http://www.evault.com MySpace http://www.freediskspace.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Swartout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:20 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Okay thank you. But I was curious if anyone has any > experience with Evault > and how they liked/disliked it vs. tape backups. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:14 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > Ahem. > > Lovely weather we're having, eh? > > William > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:13 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > Forget to change a tape? [1] > > [1] Hi William > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 15:09 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > No backups on Sundays. > > The other two... well... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:11 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > what happened to the other 54 times? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 15:06 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > I got it to work 311 times in 2001. > > William > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:07 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Evault vs. tape backups > > > I heard this backup s/w called NTBACKUP was nice... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Swartout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 17:33 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Evault vs. tape backups > > > We're looking at replacing our ArcServe backup software with > a more reliable > solution such as BackUp Exec or Evault. > > Is anyone using Evault? If so how to you like it compared to > tape backups? > > > Thanks - Laura > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
