The licensing and its manifestations over the years has left much to be desired.
A couple of things ring true: 1) get licensing and pricing from vendors in writing 2) if you do not like the interperation of one vendor, try another ;) William -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OWA usage I just want to mention that I think this licensing scheme sounds really dumb, and also that I am not authorized to quote MS licensing, but this is some info from their site. The Q article you sent is talking about NT Server CAL's and whether or not they are needed. In addition to a NT CAL, they also need the Exchange CAL. They are separate. Here is a snippet from their site: All authenticated Exchange users must gain access to the server from a licensed computer or device. The Exchange 2000 Server CAL also permits access from: * An Outlook Web Access client * Any standard Internet-messaging client Also, from the Q article you sent, Their wording: Any user who wants to access information on a computer running Microsoft Exchange Server requires a Client Access License (CAL) for Exchange. However, not all users of Microsoft Exchange clients require a Windows NT Server Client Access License (CAL). Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -----Original Message----- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OWA usage Everyone see Q168633 -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OWA usage There has to be some type of consideration given to OWA users. As others have mentioned, I always "thought" that you did not need a separate CAL for OWA if you already had one for that users work machine/mailbox. You may want to speak to your vendor again and bring up that exact scenario that Neils mentions. It really does sound silly how they are explaining their licensing. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -----Original Message----- From: Niels Christiansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 4:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OWA usage That would only fix half of the problem. A single OWA-enabled user can access his OWA account from any Internet-connected PC in the world! I'd *hate* to pay MS for that many CALs... :-) /\/iels -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 12:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OWA usage Create a group called NOOWA and deny local login rights to the OWA server to its members. Just a thought. There are many other means, like restricting HTTP. -----Original Message----- From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OWA usage > If they don't have a mailbox, they cant get in. > Its as simple as that. I think his question is "How does I stop the folks who *do* have a mailbox, but for whom I don't have an OWA CAL? Other than trusting them not to?". > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn. > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:26 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: OWA usage > > > OK, got the bad news from Microsoft. Every home user who > accesses OWA from > their home PC needs a CAL for my Exchange 5.5 OWA. Problem > is, how can I > stop those folks that we don't have a CAL for from getting > in? In theory, > everyone who has a home computer could use it, but probably > few do. Any one > got any ideas on how to monitor / control it? > > mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards), > Steve Ropiak > ZF Group NAO > CERT, Exchange and Bar Code Administrator > (207) 989-9115 voice > (207) 989-8722 fax > (513) 317-0197 cell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm> > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm> > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
