ROFL.
This is exactly what I told the boss.  However...<SIGH>.

We've been using Yahoo Messenger, but ever since the update to v5, the silly client 
keeps popping up into the foreground for some inexplicable reason.  We thought we'd 
try something different.
After a bit here, the hours I'm burning on this will dictate something different in 
the end :)

FWIW, I found a reg hack to fix the Yahoo Messenger issue, so this E2K IM thing might 
be moot, but now I wanna make it work because I have time into it.

John Weber
Consultant
Centerlogic
503-262-0490 x203


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 08:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messenger Service


The internal client accesses the standard MSNIM server why not just use
there's? I am so discouraging this morning. But this is not a fun thing
to do. Made it work once, but was so unstable, ended up giving up.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesgin, GO here!


-----Original Message-----
From: John Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messenger Service


This is in experimental stage only.
Yes, firewall in place.
VPN is not a good option, as most of the clients we work with won't let
that type of traffic out for only one person.

So...what I'm trying to do is get the IM to work both directions on 80
and 80 only, as all of the clients I know of allow 80 back and forth.

John Weber
Consultant
Centerlogic
503-262-0490 x203


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 08:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messenger Service


Do you not have a firewall? You planning on leavening things Wide open?
The best way to do this would be with a VPN.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For
Graphics and WebDesgin, GO here!


-----Original Message-----
From: John Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messenger Service


I have a need for the exchange hosted IM to be accessible from other,
outside the domain, users.

In the case of my testing, I am using my domain at home to test for
connections. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the office [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the
home.

Both are fully registered FQDN dns entries, although there is no
IM.domainA.com registered.

What I am trying to do is get the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to come in and use
the account for [EMAIL PROTECTED] and that is failing.  I wonder if it
could be that the user name for domainA and domainB are the same,
although they are different domains.

We have some other folks who work at client sites and are logged into
the client site domains, and as such, will be coming from an FQDN
environment when they authenticate into my Exchange IM.

I know that I have a) something wrong, or b) this isn't going to work.

At present, I am not so far along that I can't nuke and start over if
need be.

I used the _rvp in local DNS.  Are you saying that I may need to have a
IM.domainA.com registered with my exeternal DNS?

John Weber
Consultant
Centerlogic
503-262-0490 x203


-----Original Message-----
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 16:46
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messenger Service


Must be something else than. Using those steps I was able to get it
running here. I didn't use an RVP record but instead a FQDN when
creating the IM Virtual Server. Also I made sure the FQDN is registered
on the external DNS.

What I don't understand is why you have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the purpose of that?

What did the user enter the logon dialog at home?

On my system it is:

IM address:                             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Windows 2000 user name:         MyUserName
Windows 2000 password:          MyPassword
Windows 2000 domain name:       MyWindows2000DomainName (netbios AFAIK)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 12:34 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Instant Messenger Service
> 
> Great last name...
> 
> OK...I reset the password.  No workie.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] works inside the firewall.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] logs into his machine at home, and then tries to
> authenticate in, and constantly gets asked for the password, and it 
> doesn't take.  Home account is using a 2Kserver box with a registered 
> domain as the login. Messenger says that the home account login 
> doesn't have the permission
to
> use the email account, and asks for the proper password.
> 
> Should work...doesn't.
> 
> John Weber
> Consultant
> Centerlogic
> 503-262-0490 x203
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 15:19
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Instant Messenger Service
> 
> 
> The fix is to enable "Store passwords in reversible encryption" [1]
and
> reset each user password. Exchange 2000 IM doesn't use NTLM auth.
> 
> [1] You have to make the decision if you want to allow that yourself.
> It's just the action need to be done to use Exchange IM from outside a

> firewall.
> 
> <Siegfried />
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:31 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Instant Messenger Service
> >
> > We fixed the issue with the XP side by installing the setup from the
> e2k
> > cd.  That adds the Exchange functionality to the Messenger.
> >
> > I have it working inside the firewall.
> > When I try to login from outside the firewall I get a message saying
> that
> > the user logged into the machine doesn't have rights to the email
> account.
> > It then asks for the credentials.
> > When I give it the proper user name, email address, etc, it simply
> dumps
> > back to asking for the password.
> >
> > If the fix is to open the firewall to allow NTLM authentication, I
am
> not
> > sure I want to do that?
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> > John Weber
> > Consultant
> > Centerlogic
> > 503-262-0490 x203
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:18
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Instant Messenger Service
> >
> >
> > The IP scope doesn't matter.  IM is a specialized web application
and
> MSN
> > Messenger is an application specific browser.
> >
> > I am aware of issues with the MSN Messenger that ships with XP.  I
> replace
> > it with the MSN Messenger 4.6 from the Exchange download.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:25 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Instant Messenger Service
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > IM on e2k sp2 setup and functioning internal to our firewall.  Went
in
> > pretty easy, and config wasn't too bad, except why didn't it do it
for
> me
> > when I installed?  (side question, don't answer that).
> >
> > All the docs intimate that this puppy should accept connections from

> > outside the firewall so our roving personnel can go to a client
> > site, boot
> their
> > laptop, and connect back into the office with Messenger for
> chat/advice
> > etc.
> >
> > Anybody have this working?  I've read about the polling and fixed
port
> > delivery, and am working my way through the XP and Messenger and
> Firewall
> > stuff, but it appears that I need some help.
> > Specifically - does this/will this work or am I spinning my wheels?
> > What is the client side config to point it to an exchange based IM
> server
> > that is not inside the current IP scope?
> >
> > My boss awaits with bated breath.  I'd like to know also :)
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > John Weber
> > Consultant
> > Centerlogic
> > 503-262-0490 x203
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> 
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