Truth is better than failure.

On Jan 24, 2008 12:34 PM, Andy David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> But telling an exec there are no guarantees isn't going to win you any
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> You can guarantee that every email you receive and send will be handled
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> From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:24 PM
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> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a
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> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a
> report
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> I can only say that I have had a similar incident recently (an "urgent and
> important" message sent from our CPA which disappeared into the ether) and I
> had to remind them if it truly was an absolute must they needed to send it
> via registered carrier – e-mail is a best effort mechanism, there are no
> guarantees.
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> John W. Cook
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> System Administrator
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> Partnership For Strong Families
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> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:14 AM
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> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a
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> Wow...  Good Luck Graeme.  I suppose you could recite RFC's, but  you did
> say plain English was a requirement...  I know how I would respond, but that
> may not be to your advantage...  ;o)
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> On Jan 24, 2008 1:11 AM, Graeme Carstairs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Fellow list members I am looking for some help with the following.
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> One of our clients has been bought over by a large corporate, whilst our
> client still retains some level of independence the parent company is
> looking to integrate them onto the global WAN and AD and as such our client
> is stuck as to what they can and cannot buy for AV etc.
> They have been using Exchange 2003 locally for some time with Antigen as the
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> They also use IMF and Antigens spam filters to deal with junk mail, with a
> moderate degree of success.
> Last week for whatever reason which if any of you have used Antigens spam
> filters will know reason are hard to find, approx 25 legitimate mails were
> quarantined, along with the 18,000 spams that it quarantined.
> Now this would not normally be a problem, but one of their clients has had
> issues receiving mail, and there was delays on incoming mail from a few
> other clients. I have tracked this back to a change in the parent companies
> routing and the routers taking some time to update.
> Again this would not normally be an issue, but an important e-mail sent from
> a client during this time was not received, and I am being asked to write a
> full report on what happend and why this one e-mail was not received and
> what will be done in the short term and longterm.
> Upon trawling through the IMF, Antigen and Message tracking logs on the
> server their is no record of this e-mail being received by their system, and
> when the client resent the mail it came through instantly.
> As mentioned above during this time there was another client claiming that
> they were not receiving mail from our client, and when checking the message
> transfer logs it show that these e-mails were transfered to the clients Mail
> servers within minutes of our client sending them.
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> I am looking to take the tack of explaining that throughout all the logs on
> our clients system there is no record of the mail being received by our
> clients mail servers, and the senders IT department have taken the attitude
> that there is no problem as all other mail is getting through. Is there any
> resource out their that can provide simple plain English, non technical
> explanation of why e-mail is not guaranteed, and i can add that we can only
> control and ensure that our clients mail server is working satisfactorily
> but if the mail isnt transferred to it there is nothing we can really do.
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> With regards to the spam filtering, i am going to explain that no spam
> filter can 100% guarantee that there will be no false positives, but all
> mail detected as spam is quarantined and the quarantine is checked daily.
> WIth the lack of configuration options in Antigen and IMF, we will whitelist
> any legitimate senders that the filter has blocked as spam.
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> The long term fix is when our client integrates with their parent company,
> they will change to using the parent companies mail servers and their spam
> filtering service through message labs, but there is no changes to software
> used that we are allowed to make short term.
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> Has any one else got any other suggestions, or tips on how to deal with the
> request.
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> TIA
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> Graeme
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