Well, I should have added that caveat I suppose.  In our case, we were
getting spikes of 4 seconds.  On the plus side, Exchange wasn't
corrupting the database, just freezing everything.

Spikes will still cause intermittent pop-ups unless you have clients
in cached mode to mitigate this.

Steven Peck

On Feb 11, 2008 3:03 PM, Andy David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Only if it's sustained above 50ms is it an issue.
> Spikes are ok.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: Sluggish performance of Mail Store, Server sitting mostly idle
>
> Disk IO.  Check your disk IO.  If it is above 50 ms then you are toast
> and you will have end users get the 'waiting on exchange server'
> pop-ups.  Exchange Best Practices analyzer can help you spot this.
>
> We have this issue currently using a Hitachi SAN.  A major in house
> project went live recently and it is also on the SAN.  Performance on
> Exchange went to hell.
>
> There are two points this can happen.
> 1.  You are sharing spindles on the SAN with other applications... (no
> dedicated storage on a given LUN - common).  The load on the other
> application increases, you are doomed.
> 2.  You have a shared fabric to get to the SAN and your ports are over
> subscribed or your Exchange server is sharing the same paths as your
> other really busy IO intensive applications.
>
> We have both issues.  We have dedicated storage now, but the path to
> the dedicated storage is shared on the McData unit so no real help
> yet.
>
> Steven Peck
>
>
>
> On Feb 11, 2008 11:23 AM, Robb Pickinpaugh
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sean,
> >
> > I'll check the boot.ini switches hadn't thought of that yet.
> >
> > As for using Diskpart, yes I partitioned those disks following my initial 
> > setup SAs instructions very carefully.
> >
> > As for the dedicated spindles... we didn't have any way to determine the 
> > "damage" that was going to be done by the other app at the time.
> >
> > Now that I'm seeing the trend I'm running the ExBPA Health Check, with the 
> > 2 hour perfomance monitor, to see what comes back from that.
> >
> > I'll also be getting in touch with EMC support to find out how to get info 
> > out of the array itself as far as proving the overload.
> >
> > Then... and only then, can I try to get money for dedicated spindles.
> >
> > The admins of the other system have shut off the particular function that 
> > was causing the disk smash (for the moment).
> >
> > Still trying to make sure that Exchange in and of itself is configured 
> > correctly, and that there are no inherent performance problems besides the 
> > disks I have the store sitting on.
> >
> > Thanks for the additional info.
> >
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