> As to the specific errors about exchange offline... I now believe these were entirely due to a GC problem, I won't be able to verify this until tonight.
Thanks, though, you are confirming what I hoped we were doing here. On Feb 19, 2008 8:07 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ahh info makes more sense. > > There are a number of other variables, but as long as users at site1 can > talk to site2(assuming GC, DNS, etc) then they can login and connect to that > mailbox. Exchange on that side will handle flowing mail out its local SMTP > connector. > > If you are using RPC/HTTP then that has to be reconfigured to connect to > the new server. > > > > As to DR/Backup site, this will not allow you access to your old mail or > other mailbox if the server is down. You can do a backup of the store on > site1 and then copy the backed up file down to site2. DFS Replication in R2 > or robocopy etc during off hours would do this nicely(Assuming the bandwidth > is there) > > Even then you will have to perform a recovery of the IS to a recovery > storage group and exmerge the files out to pst manually. > > > > As to the specific errors about exchange offline, did you move any > replicas of system or public folders to siteb? If you "just" added it as a > member and didn't move any mailboxes over or setup replicas then there > should be nothing on the server at site2 that would cause users at site1, > homed to that server in site1 for that error to occur. > > > > *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:48 AM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: step 1 > > > > Nothing complicated: I *don't* expect to failover. > > 1. If site1 is down due to hurricane/disaster site2 has separate > mailboxes, site1 outlooks won't be in the picture. > > 2. If ONLY site1's e2k3 is down, a few operators will need to log on with > alternate ID's to connect to site2 > > Please note that - in terms of staff - we are a very small shop so that > part is very manageable. But the data load is very large. > > MOST of the time the two sites are expected to act as one domain (which > they are) and the two e2k3 servers are only intended to replicate some > public folders and operate almost independently. > > On Feb 19, 2008 7:27 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I don't understand is how you plan to fail over Outlook to Site2's > Exchange. Outlook is setup to connect to a specific server and AD links > that user to that Mailbox. There is not a way for Exchange/AD to failover a > user to another mailbox store automatically when its primary server is > offline. > > To do this manually you would have to disconnect the user from their > mailbox on Site1 and reconnect a mailbox on site2 in order for this to work, > and I have never seen anyone do such a thing except when recovering from a > DB failure, not as part of a multi-site DR model > > > > Your response, "We need site2 to be usable as a back-up / disaster > recovery site, even though it is already up and running production (not my > design); the idea was to have a second set of mailboxes there with alternate > email addresses and a second smtp outgoing channel." > > E2k7 can do standby continous replication to handle this specific > requirement. Here is something from the ExchangeTeam > > http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2007/06/28/445538.aspx > > > > Greg > > > > M.S, Andy throw in here if I am missing something but I just done see how > this scenario could work without a lot of manual disconnecting/reconnecting > etc.. > > > > *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2008 3:54 PM > > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: step 1 > > > > I am not looking for automatic failover. I know that will take 3rd party > software to do with e2k3.* * > > All I want is to be able to notify a few key clients: "hey, hurricane! Per > plan A please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (and yes > we have both our domains registered) > > While a hurricane is NOT in town I need site2 to be able to send via > site2's e2k3, and site1 via site1's. MOST of the time both sites are up > just fine, running production, no problem. But up thru a month ago site2 > needed site1 to do email (including automatic emails), and as of my little > oops BOTH sites' need to be up. > > Replicating the GC *may* have fixed that. I will know soon. > > > > > > * It seems e2k7 can do failover though. Is this correct? > > On Feb 18, 2008 2:17 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What you have envisioned is not a designed way for Exchange 03 to > function. A second set of mailboxes and emails is another database. Outlook > doesn't fail over to another database in the event of server1 failure. > > To do what you are thinking about takes a secondary software like > Doubletake to create a replication/fail over scenario. > > b. Is the new Exchange server in site 2, a DC/GC or is it just a member > server? > > B1. Did you create 2 sites in AD or is it just one Domain and AD doesn't > see one site different from the other(Just one big cloud) > > > > Greg > > > > *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2008 2:47 PM > > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: step 1 > > > > a) We need site2 to be usable as a back-up / disaster recovery site, even > though it is already up and running production (not my design); the idea was > to have a second set of mailboxes there with alternate email addresses and a > second smtp outgoing channel. > > b) at site2 I simply installed E2k3 and checked "this is an additional > server". > > c) GC was likely most of my problem, so you were far less clueless that I > > > Thanks > > On Feb 18, 2008 12:09 PM, Carl Houseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are clueless here because you've said nothing about: > > > > a) why and for whom you thought a second E2K3 would create reliability > > b) the steps you took in bringing up the E2K3 at site 2 > > b) what the topology of DCs and GC's happens to be, before and after > > > > Generally speaking, when you document the history and configuration to the > extent that those who know nothing about it will understand it, you will end > up understanding it better yourself, and in so doing you might even figure > out the problem. > > > > Carl > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2008 12:46 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* step 1 > > OK, I admit I am powerless over Exchange and my life has become > unmanageable. > > My dumbest move of 2008 (and it's only February)... > > We have Ex 2K3 running at Site1 and are connected to Site2 via a 3mb MPLS > connection. One domain over both. > > I brought up a second Ex 2k3 server at Site2, thinking I was creating some > reliability. > > RIGHT...! > > Now, when the Site2 Ex 2k3 server is down, Site1 users get "Exchange is > off-line" messages. > > 1. Where did I go wrong (aside from not testing this under virtualization > we don't have)? > > 2. And is there a path out of the quicksand? > > Thanks in advance > > G. Waleed Kavalec > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > -- > -- > > G. Waleed Kavalec > ------------------------- > "In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are > in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, > from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue > but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, > whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing." > -- Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > -- > -- > > G. Waleed Kavalec > ------------------------- > "In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are > in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, > from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue > but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, > whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing." > -- Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > -- > -- > > G. Waleed Kavalec > ------------------------- > "In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are > in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, > from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue > but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, > whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing." > -- Mark Twain > > > > > -- -- -- -- G. Waleed Kavalec ------------------------- "In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing." -- Mark Twain ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~
