My current gig has a cluster and I am in process of planning to make it
cluster-no-more.  I hate managing the fscker...  Totally not worth it, but
Dell suckered the company into thinking they needed it...

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Michael B. Smith <
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>  Clusters allow a well-managed server farm to go from 99.9% availability
> to 99.99% availability.
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> Emphasis on "well-managed".
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> Those are, quite frankly, few and far between. In most shops that I've
> seen, clusters actually reduce availability.
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> These days, you can install Exchange, configure it a little bit, set up
> your backups, and it'll just hum along for you for months and months without
> requiring you to touch it. Run a patch install at 3am on Sunday morning once
> a month, and you're done.
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> If you buy good hardware for the server – you'll probably not have to
> touch it except when a disk needs replacing. And of course, you have
> SMART/SCSI monitoring, so you know when that happens, you pick up a phone
> and order a disk, it's hot-swappable and auto-rebuild. Or you have it in
> inventory because e-mail is a critical service. You're done.
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> No frickin' way you get off that easy with a cluster. It requires a LOT
> more care and feeding. In certain (very rare) circumstances, I can believe
> that that expert care and feeding is worth 0.09% increased availability. But
> honestly, I don't think I've EVER seen one.
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> Regards,
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> Michael B. Smith
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> MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
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> *From:* Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:32 PM
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> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Exchange Failover Product..
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> I can understand Anti-SCC, but why would you be Anti-CCR?
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> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 13, 2008 2:17 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Exchange Failover Product..
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> Yeah, well, I'm anti-cluster where Exchange is concerned. But all about
> recommending SCR.
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> Regards,
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> Michael B. Smith
>
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
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> *From:* Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:49 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Exchange Failover Product..
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> I am all about your Direction. Exchange 2007 sounds like a much better
> solution, no offence to Stu…
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> <insert self promotion bit that made me laugh>
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> We had a customer ask us for references for an Exchange engagement today.
> As part of the reference package we sent them an Amazon book list. Out of 5
> people on my team, four of us have published more than two books (Mostly
> about Microsoft Stuff) with our names as the author on them, and the fifth
> is working to get his first book out with his name on it. Also four of the 5
> of us are MVPS.
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> The customer seems to be ok with our references.
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> </insert self promotion made me laugh>
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> ~Kevinm *WLKMMAS*
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> powered by 3Sharp <http://www.3sharp.com/>, Always 
> WLKMMAS<http://www.wlkmmas.org/>What is your Zombie Plan?
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> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:49 AM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Exchange Failover Product..
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> Going in a completely different direction here. How about Exchange 2007
> with CCR? For the price of the upgrade you get your redundancy and the
> upgrade.
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> *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:50 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Exchange Failover Product..
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> Hi Everyone,
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> I'm looking for a Exchange 2003 failover software product.  Years ago I
> used Double Take at another job and wanted ot see if that was the way to
> go.  Basically I want to put another exchange server at another site and
> have that box take over if the main exchange server ever goes down or has
> issues etc.  we currently have only one exchange box.  Any help is
> appreciated…
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> Thanks..
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> Btw we have a 50mbit mpls connection between sites..
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