Gmail <> Postini
Though, without actually checking, I suspect for Postini, customers could
have the option to allow anonymous statistics for Google or not.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not?
I never said you were a hapless fool. That was a different off shoot of
the
thread. As for google.... In the EULA for GMail it essentially states
they
can keep any mail that comes through their systems for at least 60 days to
what ever they please. The Viacom Youtube lawsuit. Viacoms lawyers have
forced Youtube (Google) to turn over all usernames and IP addresses in
their
quest to rid them of copyrighted material. As google says, at stake is
millions of usernames, real names, IP addresses pining them to location,
every video they've ever watched, every comment they've ever made, All
their
sharing friends,.......... That would be data mining. They don't keep
that
sort of information just for fun. It pays for the fun.
M
-----Original Message-----
From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not?
I've tried. I stopped when blood started running out of my ears due to all
the legaleese thrown in to confuse us "hapless fools" as you like to call
us.
John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
Forward Operating Base Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 0000
Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823
Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here
in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall
be
treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to
discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or
origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet
an
American, and nothing but an American... There can be no divided
allegiance
here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't
an
American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag.. We
have
room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we
have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American
people."
Teddy Roosevelt; 1907
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not?
Read a EULA. It will become clear.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not?
Matt:
On what do you base your assertion that Google is a giant data
miner?
John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
Forward Operating Base Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 0000
Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823
Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here
in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall
be
treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to
discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or
origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet
an
American, and nothing but an American... There can be no divided
allegiance
here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't
an
American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag.. We
have
room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we
have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American
people."
Teddy Roosevelt; 1907
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not?
Because google is a giant data miner. I'd rather not have my mail go
through them at any cost. Not to mention most other third party AV and
Spam
solutions use mulitple spam and AV engines to clean and sanitize the mail
before delivery to the exchange. Postini is just postini. Our corp boys
are running the corp mail through it and it doesn't do a very good job.
Bumps the people you want and lets the ones you don't in.
M
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael B. Smith <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:12 PM
Subject: Why not?
I'm really interested in knowing why most folks (that aren't using
in-house AS/AV solutions) haven't moved to Google/Postini for your AS/AV?
At 0.25 USD per month per address, it's almost an order of magnitude
cheaper than any other enterprise solution available.
Comments requested!
Thanks.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
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