<payback from yesterday> Or in ME2's case, a thimble.
</end payback from yesterday> Shook -----Original Message----- From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why not? Having used a number of products Appliances, Software and hosted solutions I'd have to say that in my opinion Postini falls right in line with the Symantec products. Sort of like using a sock for a c0nd0m ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Gurtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: RE: Why not? >> I'm really interested in knowing why most folks (that aren't using in- >> house AS/AV solutions) haven't moved to Google/Postini for your AS/AV? >> >> >> >> At 0.25 USD per month per address, it's almost an order of magnitude >> cheaper than any other enterprise solution available. > > A short time before the acquisition we looked at Postini (basically the > best of breed managed provider) as well as in-house appliances. We did > not consider host-based solutions. As the astute will notice, we went > with an appliance. > > At a quarter USD per user, they have dropped their cost by nearly 50% > since we were quoted. At this new cost they are nearly a fifth of what we > pay in ongoing support costs for our appliance. I'm not sure what this > $.25 comes with, but ours is not only anti-spam, but also licenses 3rd > party AV as well as Virus outbreak filters so the cost differential may > not be so bad. > > Why are we willing to pay so much more? Mostly for a variety of technical > reasons (loss of control, ease of troubleshooting, some outscatter > concerns). The one major non-technical reason is that of reputation. We > checked with a number of existing customers of our appliance and they were > not only unanimously supportive, but nearly all of them were close to > ecstatic about how easy it was to manage and the device's performance in > terms of % FP/FN. I can corroborate that; we see *no* spam in our inboxes > and FP has been extremely minimal and fixable. It's almost surreal. > Postini can't match that. I belong to a mailing list that's behind > Postini and it gets spam. > > FWIW, my opinion of Postini has not changed since the Google acquisition; > they are the only hosted AS/AV gateway I would recommend anyone. I think > some of the "monitoring" worries are a little overblown unless shops are > under HIPPA/SOX. I still consider them best of breed, but nonetheless > ultimately useful only for smaller shops and/or shops with little in-house > SMTP technical ability. The HIPPA/SOX shops are too big for a hosted > service anyway. > > What would be excellent is if Google would start filtering their > *outbound* Gmail through Postini... They are the current 419er > spam-haven. Or, they could simply list the originating IP in the headers > like every other freemail provider does. Do no evil my ass. > > ~JasonG > > -- > > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~
