Not really a tool for that...NetIQ and Quest's migration tools are
going to cost a lot, and aren't really meant for this type of move
(and might not even work).

You're probably stuck with lots of manual effort.

--James

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Karsten, Matthew
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I could alternate incrementals in there if I needed to, they prefer
> fulls but...
>
> Is there a Tool that would make this move easier on me in terms of time,
> free would be nice, but not required.
>
> The math - yeah, that makes sense.  I should've thought about that.
>
> Matt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes
>
> That's certainly a problem.  Unless your SLA lets you alternate
> incremental and full backups (ie. do moves one night, then incremental
> backup -- full backup with no moview the next night, etc).
>
> For moving large mailboxes - halting full backups during the move
> operation is pretty much a requirement...
>
>
> For the math on how much 1012 logs will be...if you move mailboxes at
> a low-usage hour...then nearly all of the translog activity will be
> from your moves, and 1012 logs x 5MB ~ 5GB of move data.
>
>
> --James
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Karsten, Matthew
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I never knew how much data the 1012 uncommited transactions logs could
>> hold.  If its around 5GB, that's not going to be fun for me, around 40
>> of my users have over 1GB mailboxes.  Then another 120 or so have over
>> 500MB mailboxes.
>>
>> I could make sure backups run right after a move, the problem is, a
> full
>> backup isn't exactly quick.  So when I get to these really large
>> mailboxes, I am going to have to do them in very small groups?  I was
>> hoping to avoid extending this out as long as that would take, if I
>> can't, I will deal with that though.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:57 PM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes
>>
>> Then it's not space that's a problem...you really need to watch how
>> many mailboxes you move during an ESE backup operation.  You can only
>> create 1012-ish "uncommitted" transaction logs before the storage
>> group is taken offline as a precaution.  That works out to ~5GB of
>> mailbox data.
>>
>> Can you halt backups when you do the moves, then immediately take a
> full
>> backup?
>>
>> --James
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Karsten, Matthew
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> That would be the one.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:48 PM
>>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes
>>>
>>> Is this the problem you're having?
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905801
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --James
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Karsten, Matthew
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> I think I got plenty of space for the logs on the server (currently
>>> 80GB
>>>> free out of 120GB total on that particular drive).  I just verified
>>> that the
>>>> log files are being written to the drive I thought they were.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The processor is barely being used on the box so compression
> wouldn't
>>> be
>>>> bad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:06 PM
>>>>
>>>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IMHO - the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for
>>>> recoverability.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have
>>> allocated
>>>> for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox
>>> moves,
>>>> then cut it back when you're finished.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider
>>> enabling
>>>> compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the
>>>> processor load without it hurting your performance too much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM
>>>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: Moving Mailboxes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exchange Server 2003 SP2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large
> store.
>>> This
>>>> single store had grown to be around 400GB.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this
>>> store
>>>> and into several different stores organized based on desired
>>> configuration.
>>>>  We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups
> into
>>> the
>>>> other stores.  This has been going fine for our smaller users.  We
>> now
>>> have
>>>> hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes
>>> (200mb -
>>>> 2gb).  As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting.
>>> Looking
>>>> at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the
>>> logs are
>>>> filling up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this
> is
>>> to
>>>> enable circular logging.  Reading more on circular logging, there
>> seem
>>> to be
>>>> mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I guess I have 2 questions.
>>>>
>>>> 1.  Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this?
>>>>
>>>> 2.  If so, is there anything I need to watch out for?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves
> and
>>> then
>>>> just turn it off.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt Karsten
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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