I'm willing to listen... How does that work? How do I manage it across three countries? What else do I need to know?
Kurt On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bah humbug. I drink the Windows Mobile kool-aid instead of the BES kool-aid. > > Just make sure your devices are WM 6.1. :-) > > (I just had to throw in an opposing opinion.) > > Regards, > > Michael B. Smith > MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:51 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Blackberry, or something else? > > Interesting. So it would seem that BES uses SQL as a backend for > Exchange integration. > > The latency for our AU and UK offices is pretty consistently between > 100-200ms, with regular spikes to above 500ms. That could prove > interesting. > > Kurt > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> To add, I'm a huge BES fan as well. >> >> I have 7 BES servers worldwide...including the countries you have offices > in. You need to keep your BES server as close to your Exchange server as > possible, which would make sharing SQL difficult as Don suggested. You'll > run into worker thread errors if you have high latency between BES & > Exchange. I've gotten RIM support to confirm up to 300ms max, ideally > nothing over 35ms. >> >> - John Barsodi >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:11 PM >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Blackberry, or something else? >> >> Your mantra is spot on! >> >> I'll say up front that I'm a BES fan. The only limiting factor I can think > of is that in order to manage the whole environment as one is the need to > share a SQL database across all your BES'. I'd think a sales support type > could assist with some recommendations, trade offs etc. >> >> --------------------------------- >> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >> Sent: Wed Sep 03 18:51:46 2008 >> Subject: Re: Blackberry, or something else? >> >> Yes, I'm all over the policy thing. Fortunately, I haven't yet set up >> OMA/ActiveSynch/IMAP-over-SSL/whatever, and the migration from >> Exchange 5.5 cut off the IMAP and POP for everyone - by design! - so >> there has been some howling about that. >> >> I'm now almost ready to throw the bone to the crowd, but I want it to >> be the right bone in the right way. >> >> Centrally managed on company-issued devices only - that's my mantra. I >> want the data secure both in transit and at rest. >> >> Kurt >> >> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Troy Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>> Hey Kurt, >>> >>> Any set of devices might work for you, if you guys have money, go with > Blackberry and BES because its got a nice central management for what you > are looking for. >>> >>> I would say put more effort into shaping policy than worrying about > phones. We made that mistake about 2 years ago and found ourselves with 3 > mobile mail solutions (activesync, goodlink, BES) and phones from all sorts > of vendors and providers and it's a support nightmare. (try telling the one > exec using a Palm 600 he needs to upgrade or move to a blackberry). I also > wish we had set policy in the beginning regarding security and encryption > because its always harder retroactively. >>> >>> Note: I was not employed here during original implementation, but would > have loved to be in your position to consider all of the policy side before > implementation. >>> >>> -troy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:54 PM >>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues >>> Subject: Blackberry, or something else? >>> >>> All, >>> >>> I'm getting a lot of pressure to get mobile devices to users in our >>> US, UK and AU offices. As you might imagine, the sales staff in the AU >>> and UK offices travel internationally quite a bit, so I have to think >>> beyond the boundaries of those countries, into Europe and Asia. Sales >>> and other mobile staff would total perhaps 50-75 people worldwide. >>> >>> We have E2k3 servers in each office, but I want central control - the >>> ability to remote kill and otherwise manage this, if possible. >>> >>> What have been your experiences - and what would you recommend? >>> >>> I haven't worked with Blackberry or anything else mobile for Exchange >>> before, so am more than a bit uncertain about this, especially the >>> risk to company data on these things floating around. >>> >>> Any help much appreciated. >>> >>> Kurt >>> >>> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >>> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >>> >>> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >>> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >>> >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~
