Storage redundancy, fast disk IO, specific RAID configs, etc. Separate Front End and Back End processes and specialized data access methodology, along with a way to segment populations of users to distribute load across groups of servers. Many cool things of which I cannot speak...
I can however speak in hypotheticals, so ask away and if I can answer, I will... On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > With something like Hotmail I would assume you need some kind of thin > provisioning mechanism for disks. I'm not sure if DAS can do that and for > something like Hotmail / Gmail you would pretty much have to thin provision > your storage design. > > > > *From:* KevinM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:04 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Hotmail > > > > How are you planning for HA, and SLA ? IF you were to plan DAS replicas as > backups and no long term storage how would your design change? > > > > *From:* Kat Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:56 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Hotmail > > > > Now that is not to say that the Exchange team might not be working on a > Super Large Scale version of the product geared to the needs of high user > counts like what we encountered. I am just saying that currently working > for an Exchange 2007 migration project for 180K users, I dont see the > scalability to 300M users in the near future... especially when you are > promising up to 5gb of storage per account with no current sunset of data > storage (all message stored for X months, etc) > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:19 PM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the info Kat > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Kat Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:24 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Hotmail > > > > HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Holy [EMAIL PROTECTED] that is hilarious! I lurve me some > Exchange, but there is no way in Hades that Exchange as it stands now or in > what I understand for the next 3 generations, could handle the volume, load > and uptime requirements of Hotmail. Knowing the backend infrastructure > required to support the number of users in Hotmail, I just can't see it. > Sorry... :-) > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:45 AM, KevinM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kat would know, she might have Ran hotmail for a while or something like > that..... > > The plan going forward with the wave 14 Exchange push is to migrate hotmail > to Exchange. This message is coming to you live from a Microsoft hosted E14 > server. Not that I can tell you anything more than that, but you can guess > that this means that they have the beginning of that move in place. If it > will happen or not is in the air still, but I can comment I do know that it > was a goal. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:23 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Hotmail > > I did a little research and it seems they maybe still using BSD for DNS > purposes. Kat might know more about that though. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:19 AM > Subject: RE: Hotmail > > > >I didn't know that you hung around here. Are you new to the mailing list, > >or > > are you a lurker? > > > > I think the question of the OP was whether HM is completely on MSFT-based > > solutions now, or does it still have a foot (or more) in the open-source > > world? > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP > > My blog: > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael> > > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kat Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:11 AM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Hotmail > > > > Hotmail uses a proprietary application developed inhouse. They do not > > use a thirdparty product. > > > > Kat > > (former HM PM) > > > > > > > > On 9/24/08, Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Which basically says "we don't know". :-P > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP > >> My blog: > >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael> > >> Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:46 AM > >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > >> Subject: Re: Hotmail > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>> Anyone on this list know what mailserver MS uses for Hotmail? I'm > >>> curious > >> as > >>> it came up in a conversation yesterday. > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotmail > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ME2 > >> > >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > >> > >> > >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > >> > > > > -- > > Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com > > > > Kat Collins - "The Email of the species is more powerful than the Mail!" > > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > > > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > > > > -- > Kat Collins - "The Email of the species is more powerful than the Mail!" > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Kat Collins - "The Email of the species is more powerful than the Mail!" > > > > > > > > > -- Kat Collins - "The Email of the species is more powerful than the Mail!" ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~