Unfortunately, too many mail servers are configured to accept all
mail, regardless of whether or not the recipient exists. Only then do
they check for a recipient, and puke out an NDR. There are a *LOT* of
misconfigured mail servers in the world.

Blocking NDRs won't work.

Kurt

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:03 AM, wjh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It shouldn't.  a legitimate NDR should happen while the sending and
> receiving SMTP servers talk to each other.  legitimate sending server
> connects to the receiving server and the receiving server accepts the
> message or does not.  Either way, it is communicating with the sending
> server directly...just like if you telnet to your smtp server port 25 and it
> gives you feedback.  Backscatter email goes through spam server because it
> isn't originating from your smtp server.  The only legit bounces may come
> for users who might have pop or imap accounts setup not to send through your
> smtp server.
>
> There are probably others on the list that understand the protocols better
> than me, so feel free to chime in.
>
> Bill
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> If this could be done, wouldn't it also block legitimate NDRs?
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: wjh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> These types of NDRs drive me crazy. Here is one option if you have a
>> pretty typical setup. Typical setup: incoming mail comes in through a
>> spam gateway device/server, but outgoing mail leaves through your
>> exchange server. All legit NDRs should be communicating directly with
>> the sending smtp server. If an NDR hits your spam server, then it would
>> be backscatter from spam. You could set your spam gateway to block or
>> quarantine these false NDRs. They do the user no good anyway.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > Exchange 2003 SP2. We occaisionaly have users who get a few NDRs over
>> > a couple of days from reipients they did not send to because of
>> > spammers spoofing t heir e mail address. At 12:15 I have a user who
>> > began getting hundreds of NDRs obviously as a result of a spammer
>> > sedning out a bulk email package. These are coming in so fast the user
>> > is having a hard time keeping up with the deleting. Anyway to prevent
>> > this crap?
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>>
>>
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