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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote: > It would be impolite to pass up a free invite to the InfoSEC conference at > Disney World! > > > > John W. Cook > > Systems Administrator > > Partnership For Strong Families > > 315 SE 2nd Ave > > Gainesville, Fl 32601 > > Office (352) 393-2741 x320 > > Cell (352) 215-6944 > > Fax (352) 393-2746 > > MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ > > > > From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:07 PM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? > > > > Again? > > > > ________________________________ > > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:05 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? > > > > That does it! I’m not telling any of you I won’t be in the office most of > next week! > > > > John W. Cook > > Systems Administrator > > Partnership For Strong Families > > 315 SE 2nd Ave > > Gainesville, Fl 32601 > > Office (352) 393-2741 x320 > > Cell (352) 215-6944 > > Fax (352) 393-2746 > > MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ > > > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:02 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? > > > > "But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of > the office." - John Hornbuckle > > > > "The problem is, there are 67 school districts in Florida and any number of > people from any of them may contact me. Other state agencies from DOE to the > Auditor General’s office also contact me, and those are big bureaucracies > with lots of employees. It wouldn’t be practical to try to add them all to > my contacts." -John Hornbuckle > > > > Pot, kettle, black. > > > > I was not being arrogant, I was saying you're using email wrong. If you > think it's arrogant for me to say that, I find your comments to have a > similar air about them. You're so important that you can't be bothered to > manage OOO's to other people because some other external entity out > there might need to contact you. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Hornbuckle > <john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote: > > I’m up for a good disagreement any time. But arrogance? Not so much. > > > > > > > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:39 PM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? > > > > Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly > instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. > > I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more > direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever > make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a > telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is > actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received > it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a > response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in > depth. > > > > I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out > on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when > something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they > need to know. > > > > I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that > "I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right > now." Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right > away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that > there is another client more important. While a client may academically > understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of > themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less > valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that > the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is > something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle > <john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote: > > Sigh. > > > > We don’t live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida > Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. > > > > If I e-mail any of them when they’re out, I like to get an OOO so that I > know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. > I’m assuming—crazy as this may sound—that they might appreciate the same > treatment. > > > > > > > > > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? > > > > I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external > users would need to know I'm out. > > > > -Jonathan > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle > <john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote: > > If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? > > And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales > or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL > users need to know when your out. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? > > Heh. > > Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your > office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your > mail. > > It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to > be ignored until you get back from vacation. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle > <john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote: >> But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of >> the office. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? >> >> Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out >> Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for >> external users. >> TVK >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? >> >> Guilty! >> >> But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to >> prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack >> for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. >> >> Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices >> don't get sent to the list. >> >> >> >> John Hornbuckle >> MIS Department >> Taylor County School District >> www.taylor.k12.fl.us >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? >> >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A <r.so...@imperial.ac.uk> >> wrote: >>> And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum >>> of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) >> >> You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office >> notices one gets when posting around the holidays. >> >> -- Ben >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or > attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), > confidential and/or privileged material. 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