There are plenty of companies out there that have one MBX server and have a DR site. When you have scenario's like that there are plenty of people who manage these boxes that are under-qualified to handle E2K7.
I work for a consulting firm that performs this function for these type's of companies. I might know what I'm doing.. but as soon as I leave the exAdmin or Network Admin is going to be shelling out bricks from his/her rear end. Yea, great for my company cause they will be calling us... but it's bad for business if the product is too hard for the average joe to manage. _____________ John Bowles ________________________________ From: Sean Martin <seanmarti...@gmail.com> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:52:56 PM Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware? I guess I would question why a novice admin would be expected to handle a disaster recovery scenario in that Exchange environment. I'm not trying to start an arguement, just stating that the recovery mechanisms built into Exchange, while less user-friendly, can be pre-architected and documented for each environment so that even a novice admin can go through a checklist of procedures to recover. If that's still too much for that novice admin to handle, then maybe SCR isn't the right solution to meet your available skillset and SLA. After all, you get what you pay for. - Sean On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:22 AM, John Bowles <john_bow...@yahoo..com> wrote: Yea, I can see a novice popping open PS and his documentation on his desk while the mail system is down and his boss hanging over his shoulder peppering him with questions why his mail system is down and what went wrong???? That's gonna go over really well. What I'm saying is the "east of use". E2K7 for the novice to medium level admin is not easy to use is all I'm saying. _____________ John Bowles ________________________________ From: Sean Martin <seanmarti...@gmail.com> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:16:45 PM Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware? Ideally, all of the powershell scripts would be created and documented as part of your disaster recovery plan.. Any novice admin should be able to read your well formatted and detailed instructions for handling a specific type of failure and execute the appropriate script...right? ;-) Or you could spend thousands of dollars on DoubleTake for a nice comfortable GUI to play with. - Sean On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:05 AM, John Bowles <john_bow...@yahoo.com> wrote: Is there any reason that MS hasn't made this more of an automated process without going into PS and ripping through the command line while you're Exchange boxes are down? I don't see the benefit in SCR when it comes up time unless you have some guy on staff making 6 digits that knows a great deal about PS. If you take an average ExAdmin and throw E2K7 and they require site resiliency.. I can see an admin drowning with all the command line info you need to remember to move everything over. The last time I checked the whole idea around "Windows" was to make everything easier for people.. it seems they're going in the opposite direction with their new puppy. Just my opinion. _____________ John Bowles ________________________________ From: Michael B. Smith <mich...@theessentialexchange.com> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:30:32 AM Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware? See, I fall directly into the “database portability” camp. Who wants to do a /RecoverCMS when you can just do a few “set-storagegroups”, “set-mailboxdatabases”, ”mount-database”, and “move-mailbox –configurationonly” --- and I can script the entire thing ahead of time! The only downtime is DNS TTL across sites and you have the same issue with single-node clusters. (Granted, this presumes Outlook 2007 or higher in the environment.) From:Neil Hobson [mailto:nhob...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware? Yep, that’s been the case with all of my SCR deployments to date.. The only slight difference with some designs is that the standby cluster is sometimes just a single node cluster (initially, anyway) From:Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: 11 March 2009 14:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware? When I recommend someone to deploy SCR, I recommend identical hardware. The general goal of SCR is fault tolerance and site resilience. The SCR hardware can’t take over if it can’t handle the load… IMHO. YMMV. From:8400...@gmail.com [mailto:8400...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of jond Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware? For the people here using SCR in Exchange 2007 SP1, what kind of hardware are you using relative to your production exchange boxes? Are you finding that as long as you have enough hard drive space, that processor and ram don't really matter or did you simply decide to run identical hardware on both production and on the SCR server? Thanks in advance, Jon ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~
