I realize that cynicism is en vogue, but I would argue that Google's track 
record isn't atrocious.

When I say I trust them, I mean that they're a large, well-capitalized company 
with a pretty good reputation for innovation and technical stability. When we 
were looking for a company to route all of our e-mail through, we wanted to go 
with a company like that rather than a smaller organization.



John

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Postini Quarantine

Trust Google?..........  Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha,............  a data marketing
company...... Trust?  Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, That's a good one. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:don....@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Postini Quarantine

I subscribe to lists like these with my gmail and that is it.  No, I
do not trust them...

On 10/21/09, John Hornbuckle <john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:
> You must, too-at least to some degree, since you're writing from a Gmail
> address.
>
> :)
>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don....@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:57 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Postini Quarantine
>
> "And, frankly, we trusted the Google name."
>
> Uhhhh, what?  Really?   Wow...
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:52 AM, John Hornbuckle
>
<john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>>
> wrote:
> We had looked at them, but they were considerably more expensive than
> Postini. And, frankly, we trusted the Google name.
>
> The archiving feature works great, and the service has never had a hiccup
> (in terms of mail flow) since we started using it. No complaints there.
>
> Just too much mail going into quarantine that should be blocked outright.
>
> I've got the filter sensitivity set to 3, which is the middle of the road
> between the lenient and aggressive ends. I would've thought that was okay.
> I've just bumped it up to 4 for my own account to see if that makes a
> difference. I don't want to get too aggressive, though...
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> 318 North Clark Street
> Perry, FL 32347
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/>
>
>
>
> From: Don Guyer
> [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com<mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:43 PM
>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Postini Quarantine
>
> MX Logic. Now, they do have their good and bad moments, but nothing like
we
> experienced with Postini.
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com<mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com>
>
> From: Jonathan Link
> [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:42 PM
>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Postini Quarantine
>
> And what are you using now?
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Don Guyer
> <don.gu...@prufoxroach.com<mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com>> wrote:
> We dumped Postini because of reasons such as this.
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com<mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com>
>
> From: John Hornbuckle
>
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.f
l.us>]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:33 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Postini Quarantine
>
>
> I'm having rotten luck with Postini's junk mail filtering, and wondering
if
> I was the only one. Here's a typical example:
>
>
>
> [cid:image001.png@01CA5260.FF836660]
>
>
>
> Note that only 2 messages were blocked outright as spam, while a couple of
> thousand were quarantined. When I look at the quarantined messages,
they're
> very blatant spam--various colon cleansers and enlargers and what not.
>
>
>
> I've been working with Postini support, but am going around in circles
with
> them. They say everything is configured correctly, and they say something
> about them making some changes on their end, and something else about me
> submitting spam headers to them, blah bah. Nobody there seems to think
this
> is quite as problematic as I do. And granted, the junk isn't making it
into
> my users' inboxes-but it's making it into their quarantine, and it takes
> time to look over that (my personal daily quarantine summary generally has
> 150 or so messages in it).
>
>
>
> So I'm wondering of those of you who use Postini... Do you see similar
> results? Or do you have better luck having spam blocked outright?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
>
> MIS Department
>
> Taylor County School District
>
> 318 North Clark Street
>
> Perry, FL 32347
>
>
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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