First mention I've seen of Outlook 2010.  Try the same steps from an earlier
version.    Send/Receive dropdown list has a "this folder" sync in earlier
versions.  Step (3) isn't necessary.  I've done similar steps in rapid
succession all the time, using OL 2007 and 2003.

 

As for "this guy", I'd start to wonder about the reliability or accuracy of
the problem reporting.  Exchange 2003 is not known to lose messages as you
describe without user help or some other unusual factor.  

 

Carl

 

From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recover deleted items

 

My OST is now rebuilt and it's back to being a little flaky about how it
works.  It seems to cause problems if I rush it too much.  Here's what I mean

 

1)      Send a message to self

2)      Delete it from the Inbox

3)      Do Update Folder on the Inbox

4)      Delete if from Deleted Items

5)      Do Update Folder on Deleted Items

6)      Check recover deleted items

 

If I do the above in rapid succession, the message doesn't show up in recover
deleted items and it doesn't matter how long I wait, it's just gone.  If I do
the above and pause a minute or two after steps 3 and 5, it shows up in
recover deleted items.  (Update folder is a feature of Office 2010.  I don't
remember if it was there in previous versions.)  I'm guessing the problems
with my tests have been just that I've been rushing things too much rather
than that the OST was corrupt.

 

Note: when this guy deleted his messages the other day, I had him check
recover deleted items and they weren't there.  I then had him check for them
on a different computer and they weren't there either in the original folder
or in recover deleted items.  I'm guessing they're just gone but any
suggestions are appreciated.

 

Curt

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recover deleted items

 

Deleted message recovery is a server-based feature.   If the messages aren't
seen in the recoverable list and were deleted within the deleted item
retention period of the server, then it would stand to reason they were not
deleted as far as the server is concerned - i.e. the deleting from the
(apparently corrupt) OST didn't synchronize to the server.  So look to see if
they might be back where they originally were, or in the deleted items
folder.   In theory, the messages cannot totally vanish unless they were
deleted from the Recover Deleted Items view.

 

Carl

 

From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recover deleted items

 

Disabling cache mode seems to have done the trick.  I re-enabled and now it
says it is going to take 7 hours to rebuild the OST!  It looks like that just
dropped down to 1 hour.

 

So, are the deleted messages in the original OST?  Is there a way of
recovering them?  I didn't delete it, I just renamed.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Curt

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recover deleted items

 

Disable cached mode and re-test.  If that works reliably, delete the old OST,
re-enable cached mode and re-test.

 

Carl

 

From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recover deleted items

 

I know of at least two mailboxes that are having this issue.  As a test, I've
deleted stuff from the Deleted Items folder.  Send a message to myself,
deleted first from the Inbox and then from the Deleted Items folder.  I did
not do Shift-Delete.  My understanding is "DumpsterAlwaysOn" isn't required
in this situation.

 

Could it be that deleted messages aren't retained if you are over quota?

 

Any help is appreciated.

 

Curt

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Recover deleted items

 

Have you tried "Recover Deleted Items" from the context of each folder?  (Not
just the Deleted Items folder.)

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jim Dandy <jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu> wrote:

That doesn't seem to do the trick.  Neither does closing outlook and
restarting it which I think also causes it to sync the OST.  I'm using
Exchange 2003.  Any other ideas?

 

Curt

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:35 AM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Recover deleted items

 

Do a Send/Receive to sync the OST prior to recovering deleted items.  If you
delete something and immediately try to recover it, you won't see it b/c the
local cache where it was deleted has not yet updated the server.

 

Carl

 

From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 12:29 PM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: Recover deleted items

 

Sometimes when I delete a message it shows up in "recover deleted items" and
sometimes it doesn't.  Is my info store corrupted or something?  How can I
remedy this situation?  Thanks for your help.

 

Curt Finley

 

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