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1. RE: Expat List (no subject) (ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov)
2. Re: heating question (ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov)
3. Re: (no subject) (Michael Falcone)
4. Re[2]: Expat List (no subject) (Margarita)
5. Re: Expat List (no subject) (Milchin)
6. Re:Subject: 4 room apartment on park pobedi. 2700$ (Rudy Rohde)
7. Re: Expat List (no subject) (wab3)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:05:31 +0400
From: "ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Expat List (no subject)
To: "'The Moscow Expat List'" <[email protected]>
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Come on, this can happen anywhere, tenants are greedy in any
country. I can
only comment that the agency did not take care of the contract, it
must have
the "no change" period. What you can do is say: "OK, I pay more, but
I shall
report to the local tax office and we will see then". But, it also
depends
whether she provides registration or not... can work in the latter
case.
Btw, was your contract registered? Is it one year or 364 days?
SO
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Welcome to Russia....
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Shi Yong Loong
<[email protected]>
wrote:
I wonder if this happens frequently in Russia. I rent a one room
apartment
in spartivnaya for 35000 rubles via agency. After 2 months, the
owner came
in and said that she wants to end the contract with me, giving
unreasonable
reasons, like living more than 2 people (in fact we doesn't), and
complaints
by neighbours... which doesn't happen before. She even bring several
people
who wanted to rent it and looked around. I was shocked. Apparently,
she
decided to rent it for a better price while we signed a one year
contract.
How the hell does something like this ever happens.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:55:11 +0400
From: "ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Expat List heating question
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Dear Nikolaus,
It really depends on the heating water circulation system: if the
main pipe
goes down into the high tube of the radiator and then goes out from
the low
tube with no bridge between, there is nothing to do but wait for the
"kapitalniy remont". If the bridge is there, there should be the
tap ... if
it is missing you have to go to local DEZ serving your house and ask
them to
put in the taps during the summer period. Get ready to challenge the
deal
with the local plumbers privately ;)
Sincerely,
Sergey Orlov,
Marketing Director,
Electronintorg SP,
Tel +7-495-2280766
Fax +7-495-7873869
Mob +7-916-3929803
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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:21 PM
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Subject: Expat List heating question
Dear list,
we live in one of those Moscow flats with no heating regulation (our
house
was built in 1964). We would very much like to add regulatory
handles so
that we can turn off radiators in certain rooms, as the air often gets
unbearable during winter. I believe that this is possible without
major
works, and I have seen such handles added to old radiators in at
least one
Stalin-era flat.
Before I open negotiations with the technicians from the communal
services
company - does anyone have experience with this?
Thanks,
Nikolaus
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:27:43 +0400
From: Michael Falcone <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Expat List (no subject)
To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
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1. It does happen but not frequently.
2. The landlord will not get MUCH more for the apartment if any.
3. Contact your agency. If it is a reputable one. They (as we)
should find you another apartment, if within 3 months of signing, we
no additional agency fee.
4. There exists a black list for such landlords.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shi Yong Loong <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:59:02 +0000
Subject: Expat List (no subject)
I wonder if this happens frequently in Russia. I rent a one room
apartment in spartivnaya for 35000 rubles via agency. After 2
months, the owner came in and said that she wants to end the
contract with me, giving unreasonable reasons, like living more
than 2 people (in fact we doesn't), and complaints by neighbours...
which doesn't happen before. She even bring several people who
wanted to rent it and looked around. I was shocked. Apparently, she
decided to rent it for a better price while we signed a one year
contract. How the hell does something like this ever happens.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:49:38 +0400
From: Margarita <[email protected]>
Subject: Re[2]: Expat List (no subject)
To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
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As well as to any other country... If you have never faced problems
or cheating in your native country, that doesn`t mean foreigner
wouldn`t have troubles there.
Best regards,
M
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Williams <[email protected]>
Welcome to Russia....
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Shi Yong Loong <[email protected]
>wrote:
I wonder if this happens frequently in Russia. I rent a one room
apartment in spartivnaya for 35000 rubles via agency. After 2
months, the
owner came in and said that she wants to end the contract with me,
giving
unreasonable reasons, like living more than 2 people (in fact we
doesn't),
and complaints by neighbours... which doesn't happen before. She
even bring
several people who wanted to rent it and looked around. I was
shocked.
Apparently, she decided to rent it for a better price while we
signed a one
year contract. How the hell does something like this ever happens.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:24:27 +0300
From: Milchin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Expat List (no subject)
To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
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Have a look at the service agreement you signed with the agency. If
it's a reputable co., they may be able to resolve the issue with the
hozyaika. At worst, they should provide you another apartment to lease
without having to pay the agency commission again. It all depends on
the details of the contract.
If the agency bails out on you, please list their name here. At least,
we'll know to avoid them. Good luck!
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Shi Yong Loong
<[email protected]> wrote:
I wonder if this happens frequently in Russia. ═I rent a one room
apartment
in spartivnaya for 35000 rubles via agency. After 2 months, the
owner came
in and said that she wants to end the contract with me, giving
unreasonable
reasons, like living more than 2 people (in fact we doesn't), and
complaints
by neighbours... which doesn't happen before. She even bring
several people
who wanted to rent it and looked around. I was shocked. Apparently,
she
decided to rent it for a better price while we signed a one year
contract.
How the hell does something like this ever happens.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:39:10 +0400
From: Rudy Rohde <[email protected]>
Subject: Expat List Re:Subject: 4 room apartment on park pobedi.
2700$
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Sorry, but IMHO this isn't what you should call a reasonable price.
I am paying 86000 roubles per month (approx. 2700$) for a euro
standard and
top stylish apartment with 3 bedrooms. All rooms are well equiped with
modern furniture and spacious, the owener even providing a rear
projection
TV (120cm) and an pretty expensive dolby souround system.
And i made the contract in Jan 2008.....when the prices were even
higher
than today
BR
Rudy
Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:44:32 +0400
From: ??????? ???????? <[email protected]>
Subject: Expat List 4 room apartment on park pobedi. 2700$
To: [email protected]
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Hello! I'm offering spacious 4 room apartment on Park Pobedi for
reasonable
price
2700$ monthly, no broker fee
2 minutes from the metro
4 rooms, 2 bedrooms, sauna
Stalins house, classic renovation
here its photos and description in russian
http://www.cian.ru/showphoto.php?id_flat=3252947
hope will be useful
Vitaly Khusainov
+7 926 84 510 84
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:38:11 -0500
From: wab3 <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Expat List (no subject)
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Because it is Russia .... Russians come first, irregardless of the
facts and
law .... I had similar happen to me several years back ....
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Shi Yong Loong
<[email protected]>wrote:
I wonder if this happens frequently in Russia. I rent a one room
apartment in spartivnaya for 35000 rubles via agency. After 2
months, the
owner came in and said that she wants to end the contract with me,
giving
unreasonable reasons, like living more than 2 people (in fact we
doesn't),
and complaints by neighbours... which doesn't happen before. She
even bring
several people who wanted to rent it and looked around. I was
shocked.
Apparently, she decided to rent it for a better price while we
signed a one
year contract. How the hell does something like this ever happens.
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