Thank you Vincent.......... When in Moscow do it as a Muscovite.... Bill
2009/5/15 Vincent Vitlock <[email protected]> > Regarding the landlord kicking you out; > > Unscrew the chandelier at a minimum if it's nice And take it with you. > Likewise anything else that's nice and will be a reminder and compensation. > > Change the locks, move out and hold the key until they paid you back the > deposit and inconvenience money. For them to open up a metal door is going > to cost grief and money. > > If in Russia, do it Russian style. Be unpredictable and unreasonable when > you move out. > > V > > Sent from my iPhone > Vincent +79036164007 > > > On 15.05.2009, at 7:46, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Expat mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Expat digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. RE: Expat List (no subject) (ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov) >> 2. Re: heating question (ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov) >> 3. Re: (no subject) (Michael Falcone) >> 4. Re[2]: Expat List (no subject) (Margarita) >> 5. Re: Expat List (no subject) (Milchin) >> 6. Re:Subject: 4 room apartment on park pobedi. 2700$ (Rudy Rohde) >> 7. Re: Expat List (no subject) (wab3) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:05:31 +0400 >> From: "ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov" <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: Expat List (no subject) >> To: "'The Moscow Expat List'" <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> >> <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAABv/92pocnvfvtzjtd7enlpcgaaaeaaaalarazgdy21nqwa3bhwlvl4baaaaa...@ttc- >> net.ru> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Come on, this can happen anywhere, tenants are greedy in any country. I >> can >> only comment that the agency did not take care of the contract, it must >> have >> the "no change" period. What you can do is say: "OK, I pay more, but I >> shall >> report to the local tax office and we will see then". But, it also depends >> whether she provides registration or not... can work in the latter case. >> Btw, was your contract registered? Is it one year or 364 days? >> >> >> SO >> >> _____ >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:expat-bounces+elersm <expat-bounces%2Belersm>[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Bill Williams >> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:20 PM >> To: The Moscow Expat List >> Subject: Re: Expat List (no subject) >> >> >> Welcome to Russia.... >> >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Shi Yong Loong <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> I wonder if this happens frequently in Russia. I rent a one room >> apartment >> in spartivnaya for 35000 rubles via agency. After 2 months, the owner came >> in and said that she wants to end the contract with me, giving >> unreasonable >> reasons, like living more than 2 people (in fact we doesn't), and >> complaints >> by neighbours... which doesn't happen before. She even bring several >> people >> who wanted to rent it and looked around. I was shocked. Apparently, she >> decided to rent it for a better price while we signed a one year contract. >> How the hell does something like this ever happens. >> >> _____ >> >> See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and >> <http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx> family >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Expat mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat >> http://www.expat.ru/forum/ >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://www.lists.ru/pipermail/expat/attachments/20090514/d9f8629a/attachment-0001.html >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:55:11 +0400 >> From: "ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Expat List heating question >> To: <[email protected]>, "'The Moscow Expat List'" <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> >> <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAABv/92pOCnVFvTzJtD7ENlPCgAAAEAAAACLWvCf6I+JKgo09gf2XxVkBAAAAAA==@ >> ttc-net.ru> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> Dear Nikolaus, >> >> It really depends on the heating water circulation system: if the main >> pipe >> goes down into the high tube of the radiator and then goes out from the >> low >> tube with no bridge between, there is nothing to do but wait for the >> "kapitalniy remont". If the bridge is there, there should be the tap ... >> if >> it is missing you have to go to local DEZ serving your house and ask them >> to >> put in the taps during the summer period. Get ready to challenge the deal >> with the local plumbers privately ;) >> >> Sincerely, >> Sergey Orlov, >> Marketing Director, >> Electronintorg SP, >> Tel +7-495-2280766 >> Fax +7-495-7873869 >> Mob +7-916-3929803 >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:expat-bounces+elersm <expat-bounces%2Belersm>[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Nikolaus Twickel >> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:21 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Expat List heating question >> >> >> Dear list, >> we live in one of those Moscow flats with no heating regulation (our house >> was built in 1964). We would very much like to add regulatory handles so >> that we can turn off radiators in certain rooms, as the air often gets >> unbearable during winter. I believe that this is possible without major >> works, and I have seen such handles added to old radiators in at least one >> Stalin-era flat. >> >> Before I open negotiations with the technicians from the communal services >> company - does anyone have experience with this? >> Thanks, >> >> Nikolaus >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://www.lists.ru/pipermail/expat/attachments/20090514/31881f45/attachment-0001.html >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:27:43 +0400 >> From: Michael Falcone <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Expat List (no subject) >> To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r >> >> 1. It does happen but not frequently. >> 2. The landlord will not get MUCH more for the apartment if any. >> 3. Contact your agency. If it is a reputable one. They (as we) should find >> you another apartment, if within 3 months of signing, we no additional >> agency fee. >> 4. There exists a black list for such landlords. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Shi Yong Loong <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:59:02 +0000 >> Subject: Expat List (no subject) >> >> >>> I wonder if this happens frequently in Russia. I rent a one room >>> apartment in spartivnaya for 35000 rubles via agency. After 2 months, the >>> owner came in and said that she wants to end the contract with me, giving >>> unreasonable reasons, like living more than 2 people (in fact we doesn't), >>> and complaints by neighbours... which doesn't happen before. She even bring >>> several people who wanted to rent it and looked around. I was shocked. >>> Apparently, she decided to rent it for a better price while we signed a one >>> year contract. How the hell does something like this ever happens. >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Expat mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat >>> http://www.expat.ru/forum/ >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:49:38 +0400 >> From: Margarita <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re[2]: Expat List (no subject) >> To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r >> >> As well as to any other country... If you have never faced problems or >> cheating in your native country, that doesn`t mean foreigner wouldn`t have >> troubles there. >> >> >> Best regards, >> M >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bill Williams <[email protected]> >> >> Welcome to Russia.... >>> >>> >> >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Shi Yong Loong <[email protected] >>> >wrote: >>> >>> I wonder if this happens frequently in Russia. I rent a one room >>>> apartment in spartivnaya for 35000 rubles via agency. After 2 months, >>>> the >>>> owner came in and said that she wants to end the contract with me, >>>> giving >>>> unreasonable reasons, like living more than 2 people (in fact we >>>> doesn't), >>>> and complaints by neighbours... which doesn't happen before. She even >>>> bring >>>> several people who wanted to rent it and looked around. I was shocked. >>>> Apparently, she decided to rent it for a better price while we signed a >>>> one >>>> year contract. How the hell does something like this ever happens. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:24:27 +0300 >> From: Milchin <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Expat List (no subject) >> To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Have a look at the service agreement you signed with the agency. If >> it's a reputable co., they may be able to resolve the issue with the >> hozyaika. At worst, they should provide you another apartment to lease >> without having to pay the agency commission again. It all depends on >> the details of the contract. >> >> If the agency bails out on you, please list their name here. At least, >> we'll know to avoid them. Good luck! >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Shi Yong Loong <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I wonder if this happens frequently in Russia. ═I rent a one room >>> apartment >>> in spartivnaya for 35000 rubles via agency. After 2 months, the owner >>> came >>> in and said that she wants to end the contract with me, giving >>> unreasonable >>> reasons, like living more than 2 people (in fact we doesn't), and >>> complaints >>> by neighbours... which doesn't happen before. She even bring several >>> people >>> who wanted to rent it and looked around. I was shocked. Apparently, she >>> decided to rent it for a better price while we signed a one year >>> contract. >>> How the hell does something like this ever happens. >>> ________________________________ >>> See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Expat mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat >>> http://www.expat.ru/forum/ >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:39:10 +0400 >> From: Rudy Rohde <[email protected]> >> Subject: Expat List Re:Subject: 4 room apartment on park pobedi. >> 2700$ >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Sorry, but IMHO this isn't what you should call a reasonable price. >> >> I am paying 86000 roubles per month (approx. 2700$) for a euro standard >> and >> top stylish apartment with 3 bedrooms. All rooms are well equiped with >> modern furniture and spacious, the owener even providing a rear projection >> TV (120cm) and an pretty expensive dolby souround system. >> >> And i made the contract in Jan 2008.....when the prices were even higher >> than today >> >> BR >> Rudy >> >> >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:44:32 +0400 >>> From: ??????? ???????? <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Expat List 4 room apartment on park pobedi. 2700$ >>> To: [email protected] >>> Message-ID: >>> <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Hello! I'm offering spacious 4 room apartment on Park Pobedi for >>> reasonable >>> price >>> >>> 2700$ monthly, no broker fee >>> >>> 2 minutes from the metro >>> >>> 4 rooms, 2 bedrooms, sauna >>> >>> Stalins house, classic renovation >>> >>> here its photos and description in russian >>> http://www.cian.ru/showphoto.php?id_flat=3252947 >>> >>> >>> hope will be useful >>> Vitaly Khusainov >>> +7 926 84 510 84 >>> >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://www.lists.ru/pipermail/expat/attachments/20090514/374012c0/attachment-0001.html >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:38:11 -0500 >> From: wab3 <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Expat List (no subject) >> To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Because it is Russia .... Russians come first, irregardless of the facts >> and >> law .... I had similar happen to me several years back .... >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Shi Yong Loong <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> I wonder if this happens frequently in Russia. I rent a one room >>> apartment in spartivnaya for 35000 rubles via agency. After 2 months, the >>> owner came in and said that she wants to end the contract with me, giving >>> unreasonable reasons, like living more than 2 people (in fact we >>> doesn't), >>> and complaints by neighbours... which doesn't happen before. She even >>> bring >>> several people who wanted to rent it and looked around. I was shocked. >>> Apparently, she decided to rent it for a better price while we signed a >>> one >>> year contract. How the hell does something like this ever happens. >>> ------------------------------ >>> See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family< >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Expat mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat >>> http://www.expat.ru/forum/ >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://www.lists.ru/pipermail/expat/attachments/20090514/36588938/attachment.html >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Expat mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat >> >> >> End of Expat Digest, Vol 55, Issue 13 >> ************************************* >> > _______________________________________________ > Expat mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat > http://www.expat.ru/forum/ >
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