Dear Waldemar You are absolutely right. I have live in Lazarevskia for 6 years and have been involved with all problems. They all have their hand out. I have stories of how business is done that have turned my hair grey. I feel like you do.
This country has such an incredible future but no one is interested. People complain about Stalin killing millions. . I tell them for the first 3 years here I felt the same way. Now I tell they I know why Stalin did it. He got tired of their stupidity. Bill 2009/6/18 wwalch - hotmail <[email protected]> > *Dear Community,* > > > > before the next heart attack I will face in Russia in the nearest future, > > or before I will jump out of the window because of the authorities, > > or before the immigration will get rid of myself finally ...... I decided to > write a book. > > > > The title is still free. > > > > May be something like "The Country of Miracles", > > > > describing all the interesting, funny, crazy and "paranormal", legal, grey, > black > > ....... well, in simply words Russian Situations I faced in this beautiful and > challenging Country. > > I am sure, most of you did it as well. > > > > > > May be the first chapter should the named "Registracia"? > > > > > > May be somebody would like to participate? > > Interested? > > > > > > Thanks to all! > > > > > > Waldemar > > From the Southern Front in Volgograd > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > expat-bounces+waldemar.walch <expat-bounces%2Bwaldemar.walch>=hotmail.com@ > lists.ru] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Kiehn > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:00 PM > *To:* [email protected]; The Moscow Expat List > *Subject:* Re: Expat List business visa registration > > > > Sergey, > > > > That's the sort of thing you find out once you've already accepted > employment with a company, unfortunately... The benefits of staying with > the company (career opportunities, salary, etc.) can far outweigh the hassle > and minor fee of just getting registration done on your own, also legally. > > > > Don't get me wrong, I agree with you in principle and will always follow > the letter of the law when possible. But in this case, the law says I need > to be registered within a certain timeframe. If the entity legally > responsible for filing that registration does not seem to be capable of > doing so in such a timeframe, then I will follow through and get it done > (legally) myself. For those of us with families and a lot of other > investments in Russia, it's better off for us not to jeopardize or > complicate our comings and goings. > > > > My current company has, for the most part, followed through with these > things, so I hesitate to beat this dead horse any further, lest it seem I am > bad-mouthing any particular company. > > > > That's really all I have to say with regards to this topic. > > Rgds, > Thomas > > > > > > 2009/6/17 ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov <[email protected]> > > Thomas, > > > > You are right, but why should someone chose to be employed by a company > which does not know the rules and leave then that someone alone here? > > > > Sincerely, > > Sergey Orlov, > > Marketing Director, > > Electronintorg SP, > > > > Tel +7-499-1554635 > > Tel +7-495-2280766 > > Fax +7-495-7873869 > > Mob +7-916-3929803 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] > [mailto:expat-bounces+elersm<expat-bounces%2Belersm> > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Kiehn > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:43 AM > > > *To:* The Moscow Expat List > > *Cc:* Kirill Galetski > *Subject:* Re: Expat List business visa registration > > David, > > > > If only it were that simple... > > > > Just because you are in Moscow legally does not infer that your > company/host necessarily understands its obligations and is willing to jump > through the hoops to get this done. As with many things in Russia, you have > to either constantly push things through by being a thorn in someone's side > until a task is done, or, and this is oftentimes quicker, just do it > yourself. What more, even though it is legally their responsibility to > register you, if they do not do so, you are the one who gets the headaches, > such as if you are stopped by militsia on the street w/o valid registration > (only happend to me twice in 6 yrs, but I know others who get stopped > regularly), questions upon exiting Russia, questions when applying for next > visa, etc. > > > > Some companies have streamlined processes and full departments to > facilitate this. It sounds like you have been fortunate in your 15 yrs in > Moscow, but you are the exception as can be evidenced by many people on the > list. > > > > Rgds, > Thomas > > 2009/6/16 Бургхардт Дэвид Адам <[email protected]> > > The question always comes to mind...if you're here legally, then you don't > need to go through the hassle. Your company is obliged to register you, not > your landlady. I've lived here for 15 years and have never had to do mad > searches to live here legally. If you're here on business, then just do it > right...it's not the 90s any more folks! > > David Burghardt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > expat-bounces+dburghardt <expat-bounces%2Bdburghardt>[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Kirill Galetski > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Expat List business visa registration > > Hi Sean, > > I used to have the same problem all the time when I lived in Russia. > > I know how it's still a pain in the ass to ask your Russian friends to > register you. > > I've used two different agencies to do registration of a business visa. > > Visa link were usually pretty good for registering business visas that > weren't initiated by them: > > http://www.visalink-russia.com/ > > I also used Go to Russia when my visa was not a business visa, but a > journalist visa initiated through the foreign ministry press office (which > Visalink couldn't register) : > > http://www.gotorussia.com/about_us_directions.htm > > Both agencies were reliable in handling the registration, and the fees were > 1400 rubles and 1800 rubles respectively when I did it. Could be more now, > so check directly with them before you go. > > Hope this helps. > > Kirill. > > Regards, > Kirill Galetski, > Russian-English, German-English translator. > > E-mail: [email protected] > Home: +49 (0)30 67 92 58 58 > Office: +49 (0)30 28 87 58 72 > Mobile: +49 (0)152 23 66 68 96 > Skype: kirill.galetski > > http://kirillgaletski.language123.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:02:38 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Sean McMeekin <[email protected]> > > Subject: Expat List business visa registration? > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > > Does anyone know of an agency which will register a delovaia visa, no > questions asked? Last time I was in Moscow (2005) there was some quickie > agency which sprung up in the Tsentralnaia gostinitsa on Tverskaya to do > this, but apparently this old classic 'hotel' no longer exists. My issuing > agency is asking for a landlord declaration, etc., which I cannot really > get. > > > > I can always resort to asking one of several Russian friends to register > me personally as a guest at the post office or police, but I would rather > not ask for this sort of favor if I don't have to. All I need is for the > V'ezd card to be stamped. If anyone knows an agency which will do this, > please let me know. 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