Sergey, That's the sort of thing you find out once you've already accepted employment with a company, unfortunately... The benefits of staying with the company (career opportunities, salary, etc.) can far outweigh the hassle and minor fee of just getting registration done on your own, also legally.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you in principle and will always follow the letter of the law when possible. But in this case, the law says I need to be registered within a certain timeframe. If the entity legally responsible for filing that registration does not seem to be capable of doing so in such a timeframe, then I will follow through and get it done (legally) myself. For those of us with families and a lot of other investments in Russia, it's better off for us not to jeopardize or complicate our comings and goings. My current company has, for the most part, followed through with these things, so I hesitate to beat this dead horse any further, lest it seem I am bad-mouthing any particular company. That's really all I have to say with regards to this topic. Rgds, Thomas 2009/6/17 ElectronintorgMrktg-SergeyOrlov <[email protected]> > Thomas, > > You are right, but why should someone chose to be employed by a company > which does not know the rules and leave then that someone alone here? > > Sincerely, > Sergey Orlov, > Marketing Director, > Electronintorg SP, > > Tel +7-499-1554635 > Tel +7-495-2280766 > Fax +7-495-7873869 > Mob +7-916-3929803 > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] > [mailto:expat-bounces+elersm<expat-bounces%2Belersm> > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Kiehn > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:43 AM > *To:* The Moscow Expat List > *Cc:* Kirill Galetski > *Subject:* Re: Expat List business visa registration > > David, > If only it were that simple... > > Just because you are in Moscow legally does not infer that your > company/host necessarily understands its obligations and is willing to jump > through the hoops to get this done. As with many things in Russia, you have > to either constantly push things through by being a thorn in someone's side > until a task is done, or, and this is oftentimes quicker, just do it > yourself. What more, even though it is legally their responsibility to > register you, if they do not do so, you are the one who gets the headaches, > such as if you are stopped by militsia on the street w/o valid registration > (only happend to me twice in 6 yrs, but I know others who get stopped > regularly), questions upon exiting Russia, questions when applying for next > visa, etc. > > Some companies have streamlined processes and full departments to > facilitate this. It sounds like you have been fortunate in your 15 yrs in > Moscow, but you are the exception as can be evidenced by many people on the > list. > > Rgds, > Thomas > > 2009/6/16 Бургхардт Дэвид Адам <[email protected]> > >> The question always comes to mind...if you're here legally, then you don't >> need to go through the hassle. Your company is obliged to register you, not >> your landlady. I've lived here for 15 years and have never had to do mad >> searches to live here legally. If you're here on business, then just do it >> right...it's not the 90s any more folks! >> >> David Burghardt >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> expat-bounces+dburghardt <expat-bounces%2Bdburghardt>[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Kirill Galetski >> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:35 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Expat List business visa registration >> >> Hi Sean, >> >> I used to have the same problem all the time when I lived in Russia. >> >> I know how it's still a pain in the ass to ask your Russian friends to >> register you. >> >> I've used two different agencies to do registration of a business visa. >> >> Visa link were usually pretty good for registering business visas that >> weren't initiated by them: >> >> http://www.visalink-russia.com/ >> >> I also used Go to Russia when my visa was not a business visa, but a >> journalist visa initiated through the foreign ministry press office (which >> Visalink couldn't register) : >> >> http://www.gotorussia.com/about_us_directions.htm >> >> Both agencies were reliable in handling the registration, and the fees >> were 1400 rubles and 1800 rubles respectively when I did it. Could be more >> now, so check directly with them before you go. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Kirill. >> >> Regards, >> Kirill Galetski, >> Russian-English, German-English translator. >> >> E-mail: [email protected] >> Home: +49 (0)30 67 92 58 58 >> Office: +49 (0)30 28 87 58 72 >> Mobile: +49 (0)152 23 66 68 96 >> Skype: kirill.galetski >> >> http://kirillgaletski.language123.com/ >> >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 3 >> > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:02:38 -0700 (PDT) >> > From: Sean McMeekin <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Expat List business visa registration? >> > To: [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > >> > >> > Does anyone know of an agency which will register a delovaia visa, no >> questions asked? Last time I was in Moscow (2005) there was some quickie >> agency which sprung up in the Tsentralnaia gostinitsa on Tverskaya to do >> this, but apparently this old classic 'hotel' no longer exists. My issuing >> agency is asking for a landlord declaration, etc., which I cannot really >> get. >> > >> > I can always resort to asking one of several Russian friends to register >> me personally as a guest at the post office or police, but I would rather >> not ask for this sort of favor if I don't have to. All I need is for the >> V'ezd card to be stamped. If anyone knows an agency which will do this, >> please let me know. Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Expat mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat >> http://www.expat.ru/forum/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Expat mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat >> http://www.expat.ru/forum/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Expat mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.lists.ru/mailman/listinfo/expat > http://www.expat.ru/forum/ >
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