On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 10:00, Mark Stewart wrote:
> Hi James,
> 
> >
> > Had this problem about 2 years ago with an ALL FreeBSD/Win98 network.
> > with 7 mini-lans in different rooms of our office we noticed that boxes
> > kept dropping off the net... but never the windows ones.  Turned out
> > that the problem was because FreeBSD and we later found Linux as well
> > don't keep "chattering" over the net and the Hubs (all switched 10/100
> > hubs) kept "losing" the boxes.  We'd have to do two way pings to get the
> > FreeBSD boxes back up every morning...(do a tcpdump sometime when the
> > network is quite and you'll see your windows boxes chattering away.)
> >
> > The solution.  a little script that did 3 pings to the firewall.  Slept
> > for 15 minutes and then did 3 pings again.
> >
> > Not all of the switched hubs did this (the 3coms for example) but some
> > of the NetGear and lynksys ones did.
> 
> While I'm still extremely interested in fixing this issue this is certainly
> a viable workaround until then and ping's options certainly lend itself to
> be used this way.
> 
> Sadly I think our LAN admins are not much interested in playing around with
> the VLAN config even if it turns out to be misconfigured since it works for
> most of the network clients. By the way, we're actually using fairly
> expensive networking gear (Cisco and the like) so you'd expect it would all
> work _really_ well. Hmm, well maybe not ;-)
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.
> 
> ::mark

Understood but from my point of view as long as companies build to
windows rather than building to standards this sort of junk will keep
popping up.  Reminded of a rather agrogant friend of mine who actually
called up Cisco and asked.  " Do you guys build any standards compliant
routers that work?"  I would have loved to been able to see the persons
face on the other end of that line.  He knew the product so well that
they had to send him through 5 people before they found someone who
could talk at his level.

James



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